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How the Dead Live door Will Self
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How the Dead Live (origineel 2000; editie 2001)

door Will Self (Auteur)

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Will Self possesses one of the greatest literary imaginations of any writer working today. How the Dead Live is his most extraordinary book yet-a novel that will challenge, entertain, and truly astonish. Lily Bloom is an aging American transplanted to England who has lost her battle with cancer and lies wasting away at the Royal Ear Hospital. As her two daughters-lumpy Charlotte, who runs a hugely successful chain of stationery stores called Waste of Paper, and beautiful Natasha, a junkie-buzz around her and the nurses pump her full of morphine, Lily slides in and out of the present, taking us on a surreal, opinionated trip through the stages of a lifetime of lust and rage. A career girl in the 1940s, a sexed-up, tippling adulteress in the 1950s and 60s, a divorced PR flak in the 1970s and 80s, Lily presents us with a portrait of America and England over sixty years of riotous and unreal change. And then it's over: Lily catches a cab with the aboriginal wizard Phar Lap Jones, her guide to the shockingly banal world of the dead. It's a world that is surreal but familiar, where she again works in PR and rediscovers how great smoking is, where her cohabitants include Rude Boy, the son who died at age nine and now swears a blue streak, and three eyeless, murmuring wraiths, the Fats-composed of the pounds, literally the whole selves, she lost and gained over her lifetime. As Lily settles into her nonexistence, the most difficult challenge for this staunchly difficult woman is how to understand that she's dead, and how to leave the rest behind. How the Dead Live is an unforgettable portrait of the human condition, the struggle with life and with death. It's a novel that will disturb and provoke, the work, in the words of one British reviewer, "of a novelist writing at the height of his powers.".… (meer)
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Titel:How the Dead Live
Auteurs:Will Self (Auteur)
Info:Grove Press (2001), 416 pages
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"Cuando mueres te mudas a otra parte de Londres, y eso es todo". Esa fue la explicación que recibió el narrador de "The North London Book of the Dead" de parte de su madre, quien se suponía había sido reducida a cenizas unos días antes en el crematorio de Golders Green. Porque en el imaginario de Will Self (Londres, 1961), la muerte no es muy distinta de la vida. Primero, un difunto agente de bienes raíces te muestra tu nueva casa, luego consigues un empleo. No tiene que ser en una necroempresa: muchos de los dependientes que atienden a los vivos son muertos no identificados. Y si no acabas de entender tu nueva condición, hay cursos para principiantes que podrán ayudarte. Los motivos presentados en ese cuento, incluido en The Quantity Theory of Insanity (Bloomsbury, 1991), son recuperados y ampliados por el autor en la novela Cómo viven los muertos, publicada en el Reino Unido en el año 2000 y traducida al castellano tres años después.

Cómo viven los muertos es el monólogo de Lily Bloom, una anciana americana que agoniza en hospitales londinenses durante el primer tercio del libro. Después viene su mudanza a Dulston, un suburbio para muertos, donde asistirá a las reuniones de un grupo de apoyo (los Personalmente Muertos, con sus doce pasos y doce tradiciones) y obtendrá trabajo en una agencia publicitaria. Además, le endilgan una simpática familia disfuncional: tres fantasmales gordas, formadas por la grasa que tanto luchó por perder en vida, su insufrible hijo, muerto en la infancia, y un litopedión (feto calcificado) con un gran repertorio de canciones de los sesenta y setenta. Con semejante hogar, no es de extañar que el vicio de Lily sea escaparse de su barrio para fisgonear a los vivos.

Suena ingenioso, pero el libro es arruinado por la intención de Self de hacerlo su "novela del siglo", tentación en la que cayeron muchos autores en el ocaso del XX. Tanto en su agonía como en el limbo, Lily dedica todas sus fuerzas a hacer mofa de cada figura pública, de cada hecho histórico y de cada individuo común de los que tuvo noticia. La ironía e incorrección del personaje habrían hecho de ese recuento de calamidades algo interesante, pero las páginas avanzan sin que haya mucho más que esa actitud, sin nada con que contrastarla o confrontarla. Un sermón monótono y gris. Y es tal el exceso de metáforas, aliteraciones y juegos de palabras (algunos de ellos pueriles), que termina por aburrir.

A Will Self se le compara frecuentemente con Burroughs y Ballard. La gran diferencia es que estos dos supieron abrir canales de euforia y plenitud (erótica, lisérgica, lúdica) en los escenarios desconsoladores de su obra. Self, queriendo ser lúgubre y mordaz de tiempo completo, queda como un ingenuo. Si insisten en darle una oportunidad, escojan las distancias cortas: es mucho mejor cuentista que novelista.
Sonitus Noctis No. 9 (Marzo 2005) ( )
  aliexpo | Dec 13, 2022 |
Lily Bloom, mujer antisemita de 65 años muere en Londres de un cáncer. Sin embargo, tras el fallecimiento, continúa viva en cierto modo y decide convertirse en relaciones públicas para poder seguir viva en la muerte.
  Natt90 | Oct 28, 2022 |
The 12 steps of personally dead
1. We realized we were dead and that our lives were over.
2. We came to disbelieve everything.
3. We made a decision to painstakingly remember our former lives.
4. We made a searching and fearful inventory of our nervous tics and mannerisms.
5. We shared this inventory with our death guides, and subjected ourselves to their ridicule.
6. We became entirely ready to abandon ourselves.
7. We waited for nothingness.
8. We made a list of all those we hated.
9. We remembered them.
10. We continue to make a daily inventory and when we notice disturbing personality traits we embrace them.
11. We sought the meditation to improve our unconsciousness and isolation.
12. Having spiritually annulled ourselves as a result of working these steps, we carry this message to the newly dead. And:

the 12 traditions of personally dead
1. Our common annihilation comes first - individual dissolution depends on dead unity.
2. for our group purposes there is no ultimate authority, our leaders are usually Petty bureaucrats.
3. The only requirement for membership is death.
4. Each group is out autonomous--After all, frankly, who gives a damn?
5. Each group has but one primary purpose - to carry the message to the newly dead.
6. A PD group ought never endorse, or lend the PD name to, any living facility or Enterprise, lest we scare them to death.
7. Every PD group is fully self - supporting, incapable of receiving outside contributions.
8. Personally Dead is non- professional, although our death guides - who belong mostly to traditional peoples--may be appeased with cowrie shells, bullroarers, penis sheaths and whatever other tat appeals to them.
9. PD is over - organized, consisting largely of purposeless and inefficient bureaucracy.
10. PD has so many opinions, that they should - all things being equal - cancel one another out.
11. Our public - relations policy is based on deception. We must always maintain the illusion of being alive at the level of press, radio and films.
12. Individuality is the basis of all our traditions, ever reminding us to place personalities before principles.

And the prayer at the end of the meeting:
then it was over, we all stood, held the shape of each other's hands and muttered the prayer: 'Gog grant me the stupidity to deny there's anything I cannot change, the temerity to neglect the things I can, and the ignorance to be incapable of distinguishing between the two.'

Self writes a book that contemplates what the afterlife is. Lily Bloom was a full time and a half smoker. Thus, she contracted cancer a few months after she retired. Now she's in the afterlife and boy, she wasn't prepared for that. Everybody goes to the cafe in Dulton (the suburb in London where the dead go to live) to eat, and along with your food is served a bucket for you to spit it out with afterwards. You can't taste it and you can't swallow it, but people still like to eat. Everybody smokes because of course you can't get cancer when you're dead. Any abortions or miscarriages or any of your kids that died will be hanging around you for eternity. You get to watch your (living) kids go on living after you're dead.

The character of Lily Bloom has much in common with me. ( )
  burritapal | Oct 23, 2022 |
What an extraordinary and interesting book to read.
I liked it a lot: strange yet recognizable, believable, both the afterlife part as well as the path to it.

This is a book I'd recommend :-) ( )
  BoekenTrol71 | Oct 21, 2017 |
'Grant me the stupidity to deny there's anything I cannot change, the temerity to neglect the things I can, and the ignorance to be incapable of distinguishing between the two''

''How the Dead Live'' is narrated by Lily Bloom, an American lying in a hospital in London, dying of cancer. Mind you, narration is probably putting it rather mildly because as she describes her lonely, isolated life in London with a philandering husband and two daughters,now grown up, one of whom Natasha is a drug addict with designs on her mother's prescription drugs; and on the cancer that is slowly eating her up it reads more like a sermon given by some Evangelist preacher.

Roughly a third of the way through the novel Lily finally succumbs to the cancer and dies from then on she takes the reader on a tour of the afterlife. Self's vision of the afterlife in London does not seem to differ greatly from real life. The dead take jobs and deal with petty bureaucrats and bureaucracy, housed in sub-standard accommodation before being moved out of the city to some even duller commuter town. An afterlife where the dead still eat, drink and smoke out of habit rather than any need of sustenance.

This seems both a somewhat disquieting but also amusing look on life, and of course death. In particular I loved the 12-step programme and the 12 traditions for the ''Personally Dead'' but was repulsed by the thought of having to spend the afterlife living with moving, talking lumps of fat gained and lost throughout life.

For me, the early part of the book feels like a long winded lead up to a joke out; where the punch line is death and there is a real lack of characterisation despite Lily revealing a glimpse of her early life in America. I also found some of the imagery used both repetitive and at times pointless. It was if Self had been given a list of words by his editor and had been told that he had to use them all at some point or other otherwise the book would not be published. It had the effect of making the text turgid rather than flowing but then perhaps that was the whole idea and I just missed it. On the flip side I wouldn't say that I totally dislike it. At times I found it intriguing and compelling but I didn't enjoy half as much as The Book of Dave, the previous Will Self book that I have read. Like that book this seems to be a back-handed swipe at organised religion and beliefs but this one fails to really hit the mark. ( )
  PilgrimJess | Oct 6, 2017 |
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Self has always given the impression of a man who intends to elope with his thesaurus at the first available opportunity; on the evidence of ''How the Dead Live,'' that opportunity has finally presented itself. We get pointless reiterations (''unbeatable gloating, unbelievable schadenfreude''); we get the word ''puling'' twice in eight pages, which, for a book that invokes Joyce, will not do; and we get wave after wave of viscous imagery (''congealed reality . . . blubbery blancmange of an evidence''). Throw this book at a wall and it will stick...

This is Will Self, of course, so heartlessness comes with the territory -- you feel wimpy and emotional for even raising the point. But you do wonder whether one day he will have the courage to turn the tables on that heartlessness -- to subject it to the same pitiless rigor with which he currently allows it to scour the world.
toegevoegd door SnootyBaronet | bewerkNew York Times, Tom Shone (Oct 8, 2000)
 
Self's gifts as a writer are undeniable; they shriek from every page. But he is a talent entirely without discipline or discrimination. The book is packed with puns, assonances and alliterations; polysyllables, jargon and slang run amok; metaphors and similes blunder about, crashing into one another. After the first 40 pages, I was ready to give in, to say:'All right, Self, you're bloody marvellous. Now can't you just shut up and leave me alone?' But no, he keeps on going for another 360 pages.
toegevoegd door SnootyBaronet | bewerkDaily Telegraph, Robert Hanks
 
The verbal excess is a thin would-be impressive membrane over an inner tissue of more commonplace commentary. There are incidentally interesting thoughts, such as the affinity of addicts with the dying, both of whom 'operate within tiny windows of temporal opportunity'. There are brief moments of enchanting imaginative transformation, as when Lily's duvet pattern dissolves into the grid of Manhattan. But more frequently, the look-at-me-mum metaphors and the compulsive alliteration are striking without being enlightening.
toegevoegd door SnootyBaronet | bewerkSunday Times, Tom Deverson
 

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Will Self possesses one of the greatest literary imaginations of any writer working today. How the Dead Live is his most extraordinary book yet-a novel that will challenge, entertain, and truly astonish. Lily Bloom is an aging American transplanted to England who has lost her battle with cancer and lies wasting away at the Royal Ear Hospital. As her two daughters-lumpy Charlotte, who runs a hugely successful chain of stationery stores called Waste of Paper, and beautiful Natasha, a junkie-buzz around her and the nurses pump her full of morphine, Lily slides in and out of the present, taking us on a surreal, opinionated trip through the stages of a lifetime of lust and rage. A career girl in the 1940s, a sexed-up, tippling adulteress in the 1950s and 60s, a divorced PR flak in the 1970s and 80s, Lily presents us with a portrait of America and England over sixty years of riotous and unreal change. And then it's over: Lily catches a cab with the aboriginal wizard Phar Lap Jones, her guide to the shockingly banal world of the dead. It's a world that is surreal but familiar, where she again works in PR and rediscovers how great smoking is, where her cohabitants include Rude Boy, the son who died at age nine and now swears a blue streak, and three eyeless, murmuring wraiths, the Fats-composed of the pounds, literally the whole selves, she lost and gained over her lifetime. As Lily settles into her nonexistence, the most difficult challenge for this staunchly difficult woman is how to understand that she's dead, and how to leave the rest behind. How the Dead Live is an unforgettable portrait of the human condition, the struggle with life and with death. It's a novel that will disturb and provoke, the work, in the words of one British reviewer, "of a novelist writing at the height of his powers.".

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