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Rose bushes

12wonderY
aug 27, 2013, 12:42 pm

All of my roses have lost most of their leaves already this year, particularly the climbing roses.
Still seeing some blooms, but not many.
Anybody else?

2aulsmith
aug 28, 2013, 10:07 am

My roses are doing better than they ever have! I currently have 5 blooms on one bush. Never had more than 2 to 3 before.

But I'm further north than you and I think we were wetter and cooler.

32wonderY
Bewerkt: apr 24, 2014, 9:15 am

It's another spring and almost time to talk roses again.
While out in my yard this past weekend a couple strolled by who had asked for a couple of rose starts last year. Of course they stopped to chat and said the vicious winter seems to have killed several of their roses, which is what they specialize in.

I haven't looked specifically, but it seems that some of mine are leafing from lower down on their stems this spring. I don't do tea roses, which need more upkeep than I'm willing to do. Mine are mostly shrub roses.

They asked for another start of my yellow rose, and again asked the name of it. I had to go back in my diary, and finally found it. Harison's Yellow. And the spelling of Harison is correct.
Here's the wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_'Harison's_Yellow'

and here is an author talking about it, too:
http://www.deborahbedfordbooks.com/harison_rose.html

and of course, with such an appreciation of the rose, I want to read Bedford's book A Rose by the Door.

It's true, this rose does seem to gather stories to itself.
I was given a start from a neighbor who was so old she crept around her yard leaning on a stick. Her shrub climbed up her chimney, and she told me it was HER mother's favorite rose. When my neighbor died, the new owners of her house rid the yard of all of her glorious flowers. I was so glad that I could preserve many of her beautiful blooms from multiple gifts of starts.

My Betty Prior rose is from her too, but it doesn't seem to age well.

4Lyndatrue
apr 24, 2014, 10:32 am

Thanks so much for the link to this beautiful rose. I should note that, for anyone trying to follow your Wikipedia link, the final single quote is not included in the URL (which will cause an error).

My late mother had a massive growth of that rose between a fence, and the barn, and I was never successful at getting a start from it. It's nice to know the name, in case I ever want to add it to my garden.

52wonderY
apr 24, 2014, 10:39 am

Oh, too bad. I can't get it to work now, even though I had cut and pasted the url from the wiki page. Googling Harison's Yellow you'll find it, but it's actually less informative than the second link. It's a stub from the Texas page.

6Lyndatrue
apr 24, 2014, 10:43 am

>5 2wonderY: I wouldn't worry about it. I mentioned it only so that people will realize that just adding that final quote will be enough to get out of the error.

7NorthernStar
Bewerkt: apr 25, 2014, 2:16 am

>3 2wonderY: that Harison's yellow rose looks gorgeous - I wonder how hardy it is? I can only grow very hardy roses here. My favourite so far is called Therese Bugnet - it is pink, blooms all summer, and smells lovely. It has also survived many winters of -30 weather and one transplanting.

82wonderY
mei 5, 2014, 2:50 pm

I will bet it's very hardy. My specimen, like most of the roses, has lots of dead branches this spring, but it is so vigorous and throws up suckers for several feet in all directions.

9justjukka
mei 5, 2014, 3:25 pm

I had to rework the rose bushes so we could put in another air conditioner.  It was a delicate process, but I managed without getting too scratched up.  When/how do you trim the bushes?  Do you wait for branches to be definitively dead, lop them off when it looks like they're not going to produce anymore flowers, or just keep everything to a manageable size or uniform shape?  I like to just let it grow whenever possible, but I know that isn't a very wise course of action, in this case.

102wonderY
mei 5, 2014, 3:30 pm

Ha! My trimming plan is to do as little as possible. With roses, I just clear out the dead branches. Sometimes. I know that's not what is recommended, but it works for me.

11Lyndatrue
Bewerkt: jun 28, 2016, 8:34 pm

>9 justjukka: Roses want to be trimmed. They *like* it. I have been known to use a hedge trimmer on some of my more aggressive varieties (not often, only when I get too behind). If you don't trim tea roses after they bloom, the stem it bloomed on tends to die back.

Shrub roses that are older should only be trimmed after they're through blooming in the spring, but most roses can (and should) be trimmed at almost any time. Here's a brief look at some of my favorites:



and



In 2014, when I'd posted these (as links to Ipernity), I said:

Sadly, Ipernity is a great place to store pictures, but terrible to use for showing others (Flickr was better, but I just can't take them any more).

I've been fixing all my Ipernity links (including these). I moved back to Flickr. It's just easier.

In general, when to trim depends entirely on the rose, but all types of roses benefit from it.

122wonderY
mei 6, 2014, 7:26 am

I now want a Queen of Bourbons! Whoa.

13Lyndatrue
mei 6, 2014, 10:27 am

>12 2wonderY: It's nearly time for it to bloom this year. I keep meaning to try to get starts of it, and plant a couple of them elsewhere in the yard. It took me three years to find someone to identify it. The head of a rose society in Australia, of all places, was who finally provided the information, and was also surprised to see it in the US.

Since it is a very old rose, it only blooms once, in spring, and then it's done. I trim it back in mid-June, for safety's sake. I'm just a bit over five foot, and I have a rule that roses are not supposed to be taller than me (most of them ignore that rule).

This is such a fun group, by the way. I've been happy to discover that there are groups here that are about more than just books.

14fuzzi
Bewerkt: mei 6, 2014, 12:37 pm

>10 2wonderY: I'm with you on this.

One of my roses has worked its way behind the Camellia and now is taking over my Canna Lily area. I have scratches all over my arms and hands to show I've been working on getting it under control!

15MarthaJeanne
jun 23, 2014, 10:00 am

Both of our climbing roses needed to have stems from the root taken out this year, but once that was done they blossomed nicely. The show is over, and I doubt that we will get a second showing, but I have deadheaded strongly. Also the one at the right corner of the shed has to be kept out of the path, or we will be all scratched up.

162wonderY
Bewerkt: aug 5, 2014, 8:02 am

The rose I just purchased is a 'Seashell Thrive'



It blooms from spring until fall, but I've already noticed that the blossoms don't last long on the bush, and they soon look tattered and dirty. This will be a go-to cutting rosebush, because they seem to last longer in a vase. The stems are short and thorny, so I've dug out my little glass vases to display them. The buds are orangy-peach and the color slowly fades to pink and then white. They have a nice fresh fragrance.

I haven't decided where to plant it yet.

17NorthernStar
aug 6, 2014, 12:28 am

Very pretty!

182wonderY
aug 8, 2014, 12:53 pm

Added two floribundas recently in Kentucky

'Oh My!'



and 'Cinco de Mao'



happy happy. They were my birthday presents to myself.

19NorthernStar
aug 8, 2014, 6:11 pm

>18 2wonderY: Lovely! Nice to buy birthday presents for yourself - I almost always do.

20lesmel
Bewerkt: aug 10, 2014, 9:01 am

>18 2wonderY: Happy Birthday! The Cinco de Mao is beautiful. Mao not Mayo? Huh.

212wonderY
aug 10, 2014, 9:11 pm

No, it's Mayo. I just didn't proofread.

22lesmel
aug 10, 2014, 10:22 pm

>21 2wonderY: Ha! I was hoping for some sort of pun.

232wonderY
aug 11, 2014, 8:21 am

>22 lesmel: I had to go back and check out the parentage, so I could say something smart back (failed at that) but discovered it's a cross between Topsy Turvy, which looks a lot like my Fourth of July, and Julia Child. And now I want a Julia Child. It's prettier than Harison's Yellow, and blooms a longer season.

I do love my roses.

242wonderY
jan 7, 2015, 11:58 am

Ah! Reading an old thread, I found the name of one of my favorites

Peach Drift Rose, appears to also go by Coral Drift



It is always blooming like mad, and the colors!!

252wonderY
Bewerkt: apr 1, 2015, 1:00 pm

Timber Press sends me emails about their publications, so that I can order the titles from the public library. Isn't that nice of them?

I just ordered Roses Without Chemicals which purports to describe disease-free varieties and also teaches how to manage without chemicals.

Hmmm. I've never used chemicals on my roses and I've not had the first problem.

What's been your experience?

26lesmel
apr 1, 2015, 12:59 pm

>25 2wonderY: I haven't killed my roses yet. I hack them back later than I should (and more than I should, I'm sure). I don't feed them. I just soak them with water from the hose or sprinkler and watch. Two of my rose bushes grow into monsters every year. The other two are timid weaklings that have grit and produce a few flowers every week or so.

272wonderY
mei 3, 2015, 10:32 pm

Just finished browsing Roses Without Chemicals. Peter Kukielski was the curator of the Peggy Rockefeller Rose Garden at the New York Botanical Garden, so he knows his stuff. But I've never used chemicals on my roses. I enjoyed looking at the pictures and lusted after several, but, really, my rose shopping is a matter of bumping into it rather than ordering. He did a good survey of recent hybrids.

282wonderY
jun 3, 2015, 9:19 am

Last year's Coral Drift:



It's now half again as big and covered in glorious color.

29tardis
jun 3, 2015, 12:12 pm

Beauty!

30NorthernStar
jun 4, 2015, 2:33 am

Lovely! My Therese Bugnet (a very hardy pink rose) and transplanted wild roses are blooming now, just opened yesterday. I'll try to get pictures to post soon.

312wonderY
Bewerkt: jun 30, 2015, 8:14 am

The Oh My! rose I planted last year also didn't come back strong this spring. The south side of the house, contrary to logic, was a poor spot for roses this winter. Perhaps they got too much sun and weren't as dormant as they should have been.

My local nursery gives me Blooming Bucks with all my purchases to be used the last two weeks of June. I went looking for another rose, and couldn't decide between two, so I bought both.

I put Dee-Lish on that south side. If it fails, I will stop trying to grow roses there and plant something else.

I am drawn to long season blooming roses, of course, but also longer stemmed, this year, as we'll need them for the wedding in the fall. This is a tea rose, but it appears to have a lot of characteristics of the older roses, more bushy, less leggy growth, up to 6 feet, perfect next to the deck.

It rates high in disease resistance too.



And then there was a David Austin rose, very similar characteristics, the Mary Rose, which grows into a 4 ft high and wide shrub.



It went into the large round pond garden, which has been mostly wild flowers (whatever wanted to grow there) but to which I've been adding more formal perennials a bit at a time.

(Kentucky property)

32MarthaJeanne
jun 30, 2015, 8:33 am

Ah, but the first thing I ask before buying a rose bush is 'Does it smell like a rose?' A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, but a flower that goes by the name of rose and doesn't just doesn't do it for me.

Our roses are done for the year, but they were lovely while they lasted.

332wonderY
jun 30, 2015, 9:26 am

They do! But each from a different angle. Mary Rose is described as honey & almond. Dee-Lish is billed as verbana & citrus.

342wonderY
Bewerkt: apr 17, 2017, 2:28 pm

My 'Julia Child' appears altogether dead.

'Cinco de Mayo' is also mostly deadwood, but one stem low down near the ground is alive and leafing.

'Coral Drift' is all leafed out and appears ready for a wonderful bloom season.

352wonderY
mei 11, 2017, 2:28 pm

'Pat Austin' is making more blooms this year than ever before. The flower is heavier than the stems can support, so they nod on the branch. I cut a dozen or more this morning and arranged them in a wide bowl and brought them to work. They are a gladness to the eye. My co-worker keeps coming back for another look and a conversation about roses. I tell her she needs to go shopping. She's just getting started in her yard and garden.

362wonderY
mei 13, 2019, 7:59 am

My Coral Drift was ailing last year, and didn't make it through the winter. (see >24 2wonderY:)

I replaced it yesterday with The Coral Knockout, because that was available.


Additionally, I bought 'Sweet Fragrance' Easy Elegance


and put it where it's visible as you come up the drive.

And my favorite of the day, partially because of it's wonderful scent, Easy to Please Easy to Love


and found a place for it at the corner of the bed in front of the house.
These were going fast, so I bought another for daughter's front yard.

372wonderY
mei 13, 2019, 4:46 pm

That last picture isn't quite right. Since I have it in my car now, I went further searching for the correct picture.

Let's try this one:



Flowers are looser and have a pretty yellow center, and fade to a pale fuchsia.

382wonderY
jul 13, 2023, 6:06 am

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