Awards for Omnibuses and such
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1SandraArdnas
I was wondering what is the practice when it comes to omnibus editions that contain novels which received awards. Should I add it to CK with the title of the novel in parentheses? Similarly, for short stories and novellas within a collection of short fiction? Both are very common in the fantasy/SF genre
2andyl
IMO the award should only be entered for the correct work.
So if it is a short story it should only be entered against the short story entry - if it exists - in LT. Not every collection, magazine, and anthology that contains it.
If it was awarded to a novel it should only be entered against the novel - not any and all omnibuses that contain it.
So if it is a short story it should only be entered against the short story entry - if it exists - in LT. Not every collection, magazine, and anthology that contains it.
If it was awarded to a novel it should only be entered against the novel - not any and all omnibuses that contain it.
3lorax
Agreed with andyl.
CK is for information pertaining to the work on which it is entered, not to other works it may contain. You can and should create work relationships (always assuming someone else has entered the contained works; we are not permitted to add works in order to use the work relationship feature), and add the award (or series, or whatever) data to the work that actually won it.
CK is for information pertaining to the work on which it is entered, not to other works it may contain. You can and should create work relationships (always assuming someone else has entered the contained works; we are not permitted to add works in order to use the work relationship feature), and add the award (or series, or whatever) data to the work that actually won it.
4SandraArdnas
In case of stories, this would mean that the info would not be present anywhere unless someone created a work page for it. I thought it would be useful info, I'm just not sure whether the proposed method would work at all since these awards already have data in parenthesis. E.g. Hugo (Novel, 1991). Either way, I'm not going to add any unless OKed. Thanks for a quick response
5lorax
>4 SandraArdnas:
I'm aware of that. It's still better than having the information where it does not belong. I do and will continue to delete any information on omnibuses or anthologies that does not pertain to the entire work.
I'm aware of that. It's still better than having the information where it does not belong. I do and will continue to delete any information on omnibuses or anthologies that does not pertain to the entire work.
6lorax
I'll add that you're free to add the short stories as works in their own right, and to add the award information there; what you can't do is then follow that up by creating the work-to-work relationship. (This is nonsensical, but it's the rule. Someone else will probably come along later to create the work-to-work relationship, which is also okay. I honestly don't think the rule is enforced, but who knows.)
7SandraArdnas
OK, like I said I'm not going to enter it unless it's deemed desirable. I added tags for my personal record for those works. I just wanted to ask whether this is something useful and how to go about it since I'm in the process of adding my books and I go through CK and add info if it's missing
Also, could someone enlighten me why I can't access wiki/help pages. It asks for a login and password and doesn't accept my LT ones. I was just trying to read the pages people linked.
Also, could someone enlighten me why I can't access wiki/help pages. It asks for a login and password and doesn't accept my LT ones. I was just trying to read the pages people linked.
8Lyndatrue
>7 SandraArdnas: There's an issue with some of the images, which are (apparently) on the old server, rather than the new. The username/password combo is wiki, oldwiki (it's really meant to just stop the bots). I've alerted staff, but they may be busy with other issues.
9jjwilson61
>7 SandraArdnas: If those links are pointing to the old wiki they should be changed to point to the new wiki.
10SandraArdnas
>9 jjwilson61: Thanks. That's it. The topics were often a few years old and when I go through help link on the main page, it recognizes me as logged in