Spam reporting thread #64

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Spam reporting thread #64

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1lilithcat
Bewerkt: aug 28, 2018, 1:42 pm

PROCEDURES FOR REPORTING SPAM

Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:

-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.

-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.

Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Spam
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

2Lyndatrue
mei 22, 2018, 4:53 pm

An actual Enthusiastic Author:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/291726#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/MichaelDrakich (please don't flag, and I've already posted a comment.)

3karenb
mei 22, 2018, 7:48 pm

work is the name of the company; neither work nor author exist in Amazon or Worldcat
https://www.librarything.com/work/13882802/summary/98476123

profile
https://www.librarything.com/profile/tradebridge360

4Taphophile13
Bewerkt: mei 23, 2018, 10:09 am

someone is going to a lot of trouble
another free account, joined today with 7851 reviews!

http://www.librarything.com/profile/nihao001

works are get a sample of X University diplomas: We Chat
checked one review which is word salad

ETA: the reviews are still growing, over 8,300 now

5norabelle414
mei 23, 2018, 10:20 am

>4 Taphophile13: Wow, that account's catalog won't even show on the profile page. I've never seen that before.

6lilithcat
mei 23, 2018, 10:29 am

>5 norabelle414:

that account's catalog won't even show on the profile page

What do you mean? I see the link there. Looks like every other profile page in that regard.

What is odd is that none of the books are in a collection. If you go to the catalog, they are under "All Collections", but if you go to any of the separate collections, there are no books in any of them.

7Taphophile13
Bewerkt: mei 23, 2018, 10:32 am

>5 norabelle414: I noticed that too. And free accounts are supposed to be limited to 200 books but with no books only reviews it somehow gets past the limit. Over 8600 now, I'm messaging Lorannen.

ETA: I don't see a link to the catalog. The first line is Reviews.

8norabelle414
mei 23, 2018, 10:32 am

I know we're not supposed to use combining in a spam-fighting capacity.

HOWEVER

If we combine all of these 8,700+ almost identical spam works together, could we knock them out with one vote instead of having to flag each one of them individually? It seems like the benefit of that might outweigh the risks in this case.

9Taphophile13
Bewerkt: mei 23, 2018, 10:34 am

>8 norabelle414: I just sent a message to Lorannen so I would be inclined to leave it as is. The devs might want to see exactly what is going on. They might need to tweak the spam filter again because there was a case similar to this just yesterday.

10norabelle414
mei 23, 2018, 10:35 am

>6 lilithcat: I was looking for the "Collections" section, which does not appear on the page at all. Usually when I want to access someone's catalog I look for "All Collections"

>7 Taphophile13: There are books associated with those reviews. I've been flagging them.
It's a known "loophole" that free accounts can import as many books as they want in one go, so I assume that's what's happening here.

11lilithcat
mei 23, 2018, 10:40 am

>7 Taphophile13:

The link to the catalog is at the bottom, just above "Member since . . .", under "URLs", along with the link to the profile. Just as it is on your profile and mine.

12Taphophile13
mei 23, 2018, 10:46 am

>11 lilithcat: Thanks. I never use those links and tend to forget they are there. I always look for Collections at the top.

13Taphophile13
mei 23, 2018, 10:49 am

More than 9,000 reviews now.

14Marissa_Doyle
mei 23, 2018, 10:54 am

I'm happy to jump in and do some flagging if it would be helpful...or shall I hold off til Lorannen has a look?

15Taphophile13
mei 23, 2018, 11:03 am

>14 Marissa_Doyle: With 9200+ reviews it would take a lot of flagging and that would only hide them. Flag away if you want but I think this needs to be cut off at the head.

This member would now rate as the fourth most prolific reviewer if the Zeitgeist were refreshed.

16norabelle414
mei 23, 2018, 11:27 am

I'm surprised the account hasn't been auto-suspended yet. It's got to have been flagged by at least 5 of us by now, right? I guess it takes more flags when they have books in their library?

17Taphophile13
mei 23, 2018, 11:48 am

Just hit 10,000.

18lilithcat
mei 23, 2018, 11:53 am

I've emailed lorannen directly, just in case she doesn't see the comment Taphophile13 left on her profile.

19Taphophile13
mei 23, 2018, 11:57 am

nihao001 has just been suspended!

20lorannen
mei 23, 2018, 12:02 pm

Thanks for the notes about >4 Taphophile13:, folks. I'm not sure why it wasn't auto-suspended, but it was waiting for me in a (quite small, actually) nest of spam accounts first thing this morning (at least, it's still morning where I am). So far, I'm not seeing any other accounts that should have been provisional spammed and were not, but I'm keeping an eye on account flags today, just in case. Fingers crossed this was a one-off.

21lilithcat
mei 23, 2018, 12:03 pm

>19 Taphophile13:

Hurrah!

But I sure hope they figure out how he was able to do this, and how to stop it from happening again.

22Taphophile13
mei 23, 2018, 12:07 pm

>20 lorannen: Thank you for taking care of this one. It was ugly. I'm wondering if all the spam works need to be deleted individually or if they will now disappear. I can still see a lot of the works: http://www.librarything.com/work/21870861/editions/156346201

23lorannen
mei 23, 2018, 12:09 pm

>22 Taphophile13: They should disappear automatically, but it may take a few hours—especially since there were so many of them. If they're still around before I sign off today, I'll sound the alarm and get the developers' to help me scrub the bad data out.

24norabelle414
mei 23, 2018, 1:16 pm

Enthusiastic Author created a group about their book: http://www.librarything.com/groups/sunasgod

Profile: http://www.librarything.com/profile/Fathor (do not flag, although it looks like they've been warned before)

26lorannen
mei 23, 2018, 5:30 pm

Just a note to confirm that provisional spam seems to be working just fine. Other accounts that have been flagged appropriately today have been taken down without my intervention.

27norabelle414
mei 23, 2018, 6:11 pm

It looks like the same thing is happening with one or more private accounts now. See: http://www.librarything.com/work/21861614/members
and if you go to the "editions" page you can see thousands of suggested combinations.

28Taphophile13
mei 23, 2018, 7:28 pm

>27 norabelle414:
Here's the author page for the private member works:
http://www.librarything.com/author/app

30lorannen
mei 24, 2018, 12:08 pm

>29 norabelle414: This one is gone now and the one in >28 Taphophile13: is much more reasonable. The "private member" thing can sometimes be a red herring in terms of spam fighting—that many private members (especially on one author) is often an indicator that the members have been removed as spam, but that not all of the data has cleared out yet.

In this case, it was just a matter of time. The account had added a few hundred records, so it took a bit for our servers to catch up and synchronize in removing the bad data. When I signed on this morning, http://www.librarything.com/author/qqdsadsadks was totally gone, and there are currently only 4 works attributed to the other author (I'm following up on those now to make sure they're legit, but they don't match our spam pattern from last night).

31norabelle414
mei 24, 2018, 12:33 pm

>30 lorannen: Ohhhh that's good to know! Thanks!

322wonderY
mei 25, 2018, 12:18 pm

I'm off this week, so I'm thankful there isn't a lot to report in my corner.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/electricscooter1

35Taphophile13
Bewerkt: mei 26, 2018, 7:16 pm

author recommending her own work in Books that make us laugh thread
https://www.librarything.com/topic/291461#6488625

I left message for her; don't flag profile
https://www.librarything.com/profile/HeidiMastrogiovanni

36Lyndatrue
Bewerkt: mei 26, 2018, 7:34 pm

>35 Taphophile13: Interesting. She deleted her post just this moment. I refreshed the page, and *poof* it was gone. This is as it should be.

37Taphophile13
mei 26, 2018, 7:39 pm

>36 Lyndatrue: Yes, she thanked me for bringing this to her attention and promised it wouldn't happen again. She also joined Hobnob with Authors and Writer's Brag and Rag Bag so I think she will be fine. I love it when things work out like this.

38Lyndatrue
mei 26, 2018, 7:59 pm

>37 Taphophile13: Me, too. I removed my flag, and there's currently only one left (I'm guessing that's yours). This is just about the best outcome I've seen. Good luck to her.

43lilithcat
mei 29, 2018, 10:10 am

Rugs seem to have been quite popular lately.

I just haven't bothered to list them here because by the time I've flagged them and come over here to do that, they've disappeared!

47Taphophile13
mei 30, 2018, 8:04 pm

49lilithcat
mei 31, 2018, 8:30 am

Things seem to be taking a lot longer to go away.

I flagged https://www.librarything.com/profile/escondidohii last night and it's still there. Usually these disappear almost immediately.

502wonderY
mei 31, 2018, 8:43 am

Some other things on site appear sluggish as well. Adding author pictures and touchstoning in posts.

51Taphophile13
mei 31, 2018, 10:12 am

52Lyndatrue
mei 31, 2018, 11:58 am

Thank you, Tim. It's nice to see things return to normal. XXOO

53Taphophile13
jun 1, 2018, 11:20 am

new author pointing out member giveaway in Philosophy and Theory group
https://www.librarything.com/topic/292001#6492848

don't flag profile. I left a note
https://www.librarything.com/profile/bk11

54Taphophile13
jun 1, 2018, 1:08 pm

author giving away audible book
https://www.librarything.com/topic/292018#

don't flag profile. I left message.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/42375

57lilithcat
jun 6, 2018, 12:45 am

Over-enthusiastic author: http://www.librarything.com/topic/292239

I've left a comment on his profile: http://www.librarything.com/profile/AuthorWMR

58MarthaJeanne
Bewerkt: jun 6, 2018, 5:06 am

http://www.librarything.com/profile/BelindaLynneLeathe

Created a group to advertise her book on May 28. Group and posts were flagged away. Today there is a new group and new posts. Group and posts have disappeared while I was typing.

and suspended.

66Taphophile13
jun 9, 2018, 12:16 pm

74karenb
jun 12, 2018, 6:56 pm

75konallis
Bewerkt: jun 13, 2018, 4:52 am

Author who has made posts promoting a book and started a promotional group:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/292412
https://www.librarything.com/topic/292410
https://www.librarything.com/groups/childrenbook3
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Chaninath_Junmayca

Please don't flag the profile. I've left a message.

78gilroy
jun 14, 2018, 5:15 pm

https://www.librarything.com/topic/169102#6503406
Enthusiastic author.
I've left a note on the profile.

79Lyndatrue
Bewerkt: jun 15, 2018, 10:59 am

>78 gilroy: For the edification of others, here's the link to the profile.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/ratnarat

Originally, I said:

I should also note that the poster put it in the right group, but piggy-backed on someone else's thread, instead of making their own.

I'm wrong, as is pointed out below, in >81 gilroy:

Thanks for the reminder. :-}

81gilroy
jun 15, 2018, 4:53 am

>79 Lyndatrue:

Uh, No. that's the wrong group. Writer Reader is not a place to advertise your publication.

87lilithcat
jun 22, 2018, 5:52 am

>86 karenb:

Just because something doesn't exist on Amazon.com doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. See https://www.amazon.fr/Contes-Bizarres-2-Bob-Boutique/dp/2874595799

88karenb
jun 22, 2018, 11:17 am

Ack! Thank you. (Whoops!)

89lilithcat
Bewerkt: jun 22, 2018, 11:45 am

>88 karenb:

It's definitely something to keep in mind, particularly with non-English language books. Many of those are not available in the U.S, so won't appear on Amazon.com but may be on other Amazon sites (or, of course, NON-Amazon sites).

And small press books are often not on any Amazon site.

90lilithcat
jun 23, 2018, 8:30 am

Never thought Spam Fighters would increase my TBR pile, but it has. My library doesn't have the book that is the subject of posts 86-89, but they do have another book by the same author, The Decapitated Chicken, and other stories, which I have now put on reserve.

Oh, the irony!

91Lyndatrue
jun 23, 2018, 12:06 pm

Yes, this is indeed an enthusiastic "reviewer" posting her links.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/292762#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/EliseCooper

I'll leave a note, but I'm not sure it'll take.

92Taphophile13
jun 23, 2018, 2:25 pm

>91 Lyndatrue: She also started a group about her interviews:
https://www.librarything.com/groups/interviewswithfictio

95Taphophile13
jun 26, 2018, 7:07 pm

96karenb
jun 26, 2018, 8:37 pm

97lilithcat
jun 26, 2018, 8:43 pm

I have lots of books that don't have ISBNs and aren't on Amazon.

98karenb
Bewerkt: jun 26, 2018, 11:31 pm

>97 lilithcat:
Me too! Are any of yours exam guides written by Brad Pitt, and published by Brad Publications? :)

(Sorry, I replied too quickly & forgot stuff.)

100gilroy
jun 27, 2018, 5:15 am

>96 karenb: Looking at the profile, I'd say closer to an enthusiastic author without the self promotion than spam. So no.

101karenb
jun 27, 2018, 5:56 am

>100 gilroy:
I couldn't find the book on the linked site. Not sure they're the actual author.

102gilroy
jun 27, 2018, 7:13 am

>101 karenb: Well, it isn't Brad Pitt any more (by the way, there's more than one Brad Pitt out there than just the actor.)

I'm sticking with my no.

103lilithcat
jun 27, 2018, 8:18 am

>98 karenb:

No, but I've got a lot of small press/artists' books.

105WomensSeqArtLibrary
Bewerkt: jun 28, 2018, 4:18 pm

Got some lists to report for clean-up (none that are being obtrusive, just ones uglying up the place):

Two outright spammers (both creators flagged as well)
1:
https://www.librarything.com/list/12736/all/Google-Docs%7C%7C18008861108%7C%7C-G...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12733/all/Google-Docs-1-8-0-0-8-8-6-1-1-0-8-Ga...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12735/all/Google-Docs%7C%7C18008861108%7C%7C-G...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12734/all/Google-Docs%4018008861108%21%40-GARM...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12745/all/Corey-Kluber%4018008861108%21%40-GAR...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12746/all/Corey-Kluber%7C%7C18008861108%7C%7C-...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12747/all/Corey-Kluber%7C%7C18008861108%7C%7C-...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12748/all/Corey-Kluber-1-800-886-1108-Garmin-C...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12749/all/Corey-Kluber%7C%7C18008861108%7C%7CG...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12751/all/Corey-Kluber%4018008861108%40GARMIN-...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12750/all/Corey-Kluber-1-800-886-1108-Garmin-C...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12741/all/Google-Docs-1-800-886-1108-Garmin-Cu...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12740/all/Google-Docs%40%401-800-886-1108-GARM...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12742/all/Google-Docs%40-1-800-886-1108-Garmin...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12739/all/Google-Docs%7C%7C18008861108%7C%7CGA...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12738/all/Google-Docs%4018008861108%40GARMIN-G...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12743/all/Google-Docs%7C%7C18008861108%7C%7C-G...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12744/all/Google-Docs-1-8-0-0-8-8-6-1-1-0-8-Ga...
https://www.librarything.com/list/12737/all/Google-Docs%7C%7C-1-800-886-1108-%7C...
2 (all made today):
https://www.librarything.com/list/18883/all/eset-nod32-Help-18779095113-eset-nod...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18889/all/Call-Now-18779095113-trend-micro-ant...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18888/all/Customer-Care-1%60877%60909%605113-t...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18887/all/Contact-US-18779095113-trend-micro-t...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18890/all/Help-Number-18779095113-trend-micro-...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18893/all/Trend-Micro-Help-18779095113-trend-m...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18892/all/Customer-Service-18779095113-trend-m...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18891/all/Technical-Help-1%60877%60909%605113-...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18885/all/Helpline-USA-1%60877%60909%605113-tr...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18894/all/Customer-Support-1%60877%60909%60511...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18884/all/Customer-Support-18779095113-eset-sm...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18878/all/Customer-Care-18779095113-eset-custo...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18877/all/Contact-US-18885065332-eset-tech-sup...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18876/all/USA-Toll-Free-1%60877%60909%605113-e...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18882/all/Cusromer-Service-1%60877%60909%60511...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18879/all/Call-Now-1%60877%60909%605113-eset-s...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18881/all/Technical-Help-18779095113-eset-tech...
https://www.librarything.com/list/18880/all/Help-Number-18779095113-Eset-phone-n...

Others:
https://www.librarything.com/list/10583/all/http-%25252F%25252Fwww-wallpapers-co... (flagged creator)
https://www.librarything.com/list/18704/all/Enjoy-Thrills-of-Bungy-Jumping-at-Zi... (flagged creator)
https://www.librarything.com/list/11304/all/Q%25252F微信252443925办理美国... (ran through Google Translate, it's definitely commercial; flagged creator)
https://www.librarything.com/list/9487/all/Test-List
https://www.librarything.com/list/10501/all/test-for-PLCs
https://www.librarything.com/list/10502/all/E-S-test-list
https://www.librarything.com/list/1134/all/test
https://www.librarything.com/list/10636/all/Test-of-Best-Books
https://www.librarything.com/list/18770/all/Null
https://www.librarything.com/list/18509/all/Test

These ones all have no title and thus no actual link to them (I had to View Source to get the URL.)
https://www.librarything.com/list/10805/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/10808/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/11224/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/10794/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/11226/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/1070/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/9431/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/568/all/ (this one actually has content, it just needs a name)
https://www.librarything.com/list/643/all/ (also just needs a name)
https://www.librarything.com/list/11227/all/ (has both content and a member, but no name)
https://www.librarything.com/list/1004/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/9852/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/18324/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/7/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/9957/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/9973/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/10088/all/
https://www.librarything.com/list/10118/all/

These aren't spam per se, just duplicates, probably created accidentally (also they're both totally devoid of activity)
https://www.librarything.com/list/12131/all/hispanoamericanos
https://www.librarything.com/list/12132/all/hispanoamericanos

That's enough for now, I think ;)

106karenb
jun 29, 2018, 2:23 am

>103 lilithcat:

FWIW, me too. I meant that no ISBN/not on Amazon.in as supporting info because I've missed that info recently for other works. That info does NOT indicate spam, by itself, and I apologize for giving that impression.

107Taphophile13
Bewerkt: jun 29, 2018, 1:57 pm

109Taphophile13
Bewerkt: jun 29, 2018, 2:26 pm

>108 norabelle414: second one STILL needs a flag

Gone now

110Taphophile13
jun 29, 2018, 2:02 pm

He also started a group to discuss his book:

http://www.librarything.com/groups/stubbythesquidsunder

111Taphophile13
Bewerkt: jul 1, 2018, 8:36 am

112karenb
Bewerkt: jul 1, 2018, 8:56 pm

Dit bericht is door zijn auteur gewist.

113Taphophile13
jul 2, 2018, 10:23 pm

author offering his book
http://www.librarything.com/topic/293118#

I'll leave a message; don't flag profile
http://www.librarything.com/profile/marcuswarren

117lilithcat
jul 11, 2018, 10:07 am

Not the best advertising slogan: "Get Horrified with Unlimited access to our selection of Books, Music, Games, and More."

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Jubimedia

119Lyndatrue
jul 11, 2018, 10:45 am

Well, this is going to be a weird one. I'm not sure that anyone here can fix it, and it might be necessary to appeal directly to staff, but it appears that an Enthusiastic Author has been hoisted on his own petard (so to speak). I have very little Spanish, and am unable to read the message posted (which I'm sure was just telling the world about his book).

He's trapped over in Purgatory (aka the spam folder), and his post is tombstoned, but he is merely flagged.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/W.Guevara.Guevara

Here's the work, with his review still on it.

http://www.librarything.com/work/22077232/158192496

According to Google Translate, here's the review (which I'm about to counter flag, since it's been flagged as not a review).

****
The childhood of Mariángel Manrique, is full of happy and very beautiful moments.

But also tragic and painful, which will teach him to know, live and suffer the world in which he was born, in his beloved Santa Rosa de Viterbo, in Boyaca; where he lives his adventures.

She is like an Angel in a strange world ... She finds it difficult to understand the world, she has difficulty understanding people, selfishness, hard hearts and war ... Trying to understand a reality and seeking to explain it in her words , through his innocence.

This is Mariángel Manrique, in this first part of the story, telling and telling his joyful childhood.
****

(Google seems confused on gender in the translation, but the book cover is clearly a little girl.)

I'd rescue the author, if I could, but I cannot figure out how. I also do not trust Google translate to put my standard "Welcome to LT, please follow the rules and stuff."

Help?

121gilroy
jul 11, 2018, 2:15 pm

>120 Taphophile13: I feel like we've already killed something similar lately...

122Taphophile13
Bewerkt: jul 11, 2018, 2:26 pm

>121 gilroy: It does sound vaguely familiar.

ETA: see >113 Taphophile13: above. Similar but not the same.

123karenb
jul 11, 2018, 4:50 pm

>119 Lyndatrue:
I can still see the author, so possibly already rescued?

124Lyndatrue
jul 11, 2018, 5:02 pm

>123 karenb: No, not the case. If you look in the spam folder, the author is still there, and tagged. I just checked, to make sure. I left Tim a message, explaining the issue, but I haven't had anyone from staff respond to a profile comment in quite a while. It makes me sad and discouraged, to be honest.

Ah, well. Life goes on.

125karenb
jul 12, 2018, 1:10 am

>124 Lyndatrue:
Ah, I see what you mean. Maybe the Spam? list derives from the topic entries? The Spam? list has to include user names, but that's because every topic comes from a user. The user name is there, yes, but the symbol next to it is a flag -- as in, click this flag if you want to flag the profile.

If you go to the user profile (https://www.librarything.com/profile/W.Guevara.Guevara), it looks like a regular user profile. I think that means people marked the topic as spam but (as you said) realized that the author is merely being overenthusiastic.

129Taphophile13
jul 15, 2018, 10:14 am

130Taphophile13
jul 15, 2018, 10:18 am

136Lyndatrue
jul 16, 2018, 3:15 pm

I'll leave a message, but I doubt it'll have an effect.

Please flag topic.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/293687#

http://www.librarything.com/profile/hathor1943 (Don't flag, please...)

1372wonderY
jul 16, 2018, 3:20 pm

>136 Lyndatrue:

I left the new member a message directing her to a group of Franklin Mint collectors:
http://www.librarything.com/groups/franklinlibrarycolle

153Lyndatrue
jul 24, 2018, 2:15 pm

Enthusiastic "Author" (yeah, I'm cynical this morning)

http://www.librarything.com/profile/GilGabler
http://www.librarything.com/topic/294039#

I left a message on the profile.

155lilithcat
jul 25, 2018, 9:14 am

Spam work (dentist advertising): http://www.librarything.com/work/22125293 Profile is gone, but work still needs flagging. Fake author, too: http://www.librarything.com/author/advanceddentistrycen

156Lyndatrue
Bewerkt: jul 26, 2018, 1:19 am

Must be that time of night...

http://www.librarything.com/profile/tonamelvin
http://www.librarything.com/topic/294128#

I'm not sure why I bother. It's gone (of course). It's pleasant to see things working so well.

159lilithcat
jul 26, 2018, 3:41 pm

166Lyndatrue
Bewerkt: jul 29, 2018, 10:53 pm

Dang, this is one busy "enthusiastic" something or other:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/278971#6539474
http://www.librarything.com/topic/294297#
http://www.librarything.com/topic/294298#
http://www.librarything.com/topic/294300#

http://www.librarything.com/profile/FortnightOrForever

I left a message, but I may go back and flag the account if it doesn't quit.

(There were a couple of others, but they're already gone.)

ETA: Taken care of, at least for now. Two of us posted the message (at the same time). Kinda funny. :-}

1702wonderY
Bewerkt: aug 2, 2018, 9:27 am

Odd. Checking the Spam folder this morning, I found a couple of threads flagged but not yet down. New member
https://www.librarything.com/profile/1921681254me

is obviously a spammer, but has a paid lifetime membership.

here's the still live thread
https://www.librarything.com/topic/294474

171Taphophile13
aug 2, 2018, 9:32 am

>170 2wonderY: Maybe used the mobile app. That's one way to get a free lifetime membership. The thread is now dead but it wouldn't hurt to flag the profile.

172norabelle414
aug 2, 2018, 9:32 am

>170 2wonderY: I was going to say that there are few ways to get a lifetime account without paying money, but then I noticed this thread http://www.librarything.com/topic/294480 where a real person who joined recently is unsure about how they got a lifetime account, so there might be some kind of bug going on?

1732wonderY
Bewerkt: aug 2, 2018, 9:49 am

It looks like lifetime memberships are given out randomly at times. I just checked on friends accounts I helped set up as free. Four of the dozen are now lifetime, and I know there was no activity or money paid.

And lifetime status seems to add some resiliency to being flagged out of existence, as the profile in >170 2wonderY: hasn't gone down yet; though no further talk activity.

174norabelle414
aug 2, 2018, 9:53 am

>173 2wonderY: I checked all of the accounts under "recent users" on the Zeitgeist page (going back to the 28th of July) and more than 90% are lifetime accounts. I don't know if 90% of people are adding through the app, but it seems unlikely to me.

175lorannen
aug 2, 2018, 11:51 am

>170 2wonderY: Thanks for flagging me down. I'm looking into it. I've nixed the offending account here, but am still tracing why they got the upgrade.

In theory, there are 2 main ways to get free, automatic lifetime membership upgrades—1) mobile app usage (or signing up via the app); 2) activating TinyCat for your LT account. The former is the most commonly used.

Technically, I believe it's still possible to get the upgrade by importing a Shelfari or Goodreads library, as well.

I've tested signup a couple times on my home machine this morning, and so far, they're staying at the "free" level, as they should.

176lorannen
aug 2, 2018, 2:00 pm

>175 lorannen: Further investigating by myself and Tim shows that the spammer in >170 2wonderY: had activated TinyCat—that's why they had the lifetime membership.

I'm in the database checking for further discrepancies, but that's this one explained, at least.

178gilroy
aug 3, 2018, 7:33 am

>177 2wonderY: Your first link is missing something.

181gilroy
Bewerkt: aug 6, 2018, 11:52 am

http://www.librarything.com/topic/294605

Enthusiastic author. Already noted profile.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/hanque99 (Profile. DO NOT FLAG)

1842wonderY
aug 7, 2018, 12:17 pm

Thought I'd check on this target for spam published reviews; and yes, they've been at it again!

https://www.librarything.com/work/708696

1862wonderY
aug 7, 2018, 12:27 pm

I'm deleting them. Here is a plain record of what they look like, minus the linkages:

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1872wonderY
aug 7, 2018, 12:49 pm

a couple more spam reviewers

I love reading books about the magic era because this is Harry Potter. This is a series I like very much, but the story is short and without substance. Although I love reading young Sirius and James, I hope he will write this era better. poker online

https://www.librarything.com/profile/carla0915

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188Lyndatrue
Bewerkt: aug 8, 2018, 2:06 am

It's someone who has been on LT long enough to know better. Here's the post, and the profile. I don't have the energy nor the will for an enthusiastic author tonight. I flagged the post, but someone else probably should point the author to the path of righteousness.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/294657#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/LindaWeaverClarke

189amysisson
aug 8, 2018, 2:17 am

I left a message on the profile.

193gilroy
aug 10, 2018, 6:23 am

>192 Taphophile13: I'm guessing the author continued to spam after the message was left? S/He's been removed as spam now...

194Taphophile13
Bewerkt: aug 10, 2018, 11:22 am

>193 gilroy: Don't know. Although posting in the current movie night thread where Tim has been posting was not a good move.

195rybie2
aug 11, 2018, 12:10 pm

More flags are needed to squash this spammer.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Bedpageseo_Seo (also see http://www.librarything.com/gallery/member/Bedpageseo_Seo for more photos, tags, and links to make your eyes water).

1962wonderY
aug 11, 2018, 12:23 pm

>195 rybie2:. That’s another lifetime member because they used the app. Won’t go away without staff intervention. I call this a problem.

197rybie2
aug 11, 2018, 7:45 pm

>196 2wonderY: Grrrrr. I've emailed staff, thanks.

201gilroy
aug 17, 2018, 7:12 am

https://www.librarything.com/profile/rupallina

Has somehow slipped through the spam filters.

2042wonderY
aug 20, 2018, 11:07 am

>203 gilroy: His review of his book also violates site policy, being a collection of other peoples' comments. Though it is marked as by the author now, (Thanks, Tim!) I flagged it as well.

209norabelle414
Bewerkt: aug 22, 2018, 11:31 am

>208 2wonderY: I think this is a grey-area, spam-wise, but it's notable that the first author is playing his own books in some of those thread games:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/292518#6557832
https://www.librarything.com/topic/190778#6557834

210lilithcat
aug 22, 2018, 11:31 am

Perhaps, but the fact that there are a few years between the creation of each of the accounts suggests to me that these may be cases of not remembering user name/password, etc.

2122wonderY
aug 22, 2018, 11:47 am

>209 norabelle414: and 211 Good catch!

2132wonderY
Bewerkt: aug 22, 2018, 12:15 pm

What caught my attention is the "about me" on SallyLivingWell is a link going to an Amazon page for one of Dhillon's books.

214norabelle414
aug 22, 2018, 12:46 pm

>213 2wonderY: Yes, one of the Dhillon accounts is posting about some of Sally's books on the game threads as well. They're definitely related in some way.

2172wonderY
aug 22, 2018, 1:34 pm

218Taphophile13
aug 22, 2018, 1:36 pm

>217 2wonderY: We found the cure and it's gone!

219gilroy
Bewerkt: aug 22, 2018, 2:38 pm

>208 2wonderY: Has anyone noted any of the accounts with the usual Author warning?

Wait. Looking at SallyLivingWell, I've seen that profile photo before...
ETA: Yeah, thought so. That's a picture of Sally Fields from when she starred in Gidget.

220norabelle414
aug 22, 2018, 4:06 pm

222Marissa_Doyle
aug 22, 2018, 4:35 pm

>219 gilroy: Am I imagining things, or is this DrDln guy also on AW?

223gilroy
aug 22, 2018, 8:26 pm

>222 Marissa_Doyle: Possible. I've not been on there in almost a year.

224gilroy
aug 23, 2018, 7:12 am

https://www.librarything.com/topic/295274
Enthusiastic Author

https://www.librarything.com/profile/HoneyKasper (Profile. DO NOT FLAG. Already left comment)

226elenchus
Bewerkt: aug 23, 2018, 9:34 am

I'm a lurker and not a Fully Armed Spam Fighter, but I noticed spam in a book haiku and I don't know how to flag it or identify the member.

I see the spam under Cattaneo's Federalismo, from this page of Recent Haiku:
http://www.librarything.com/more/haiku

227norabelle414
aug 23, 2018, 9:48 am

>226 elenchus: I don't see any haiku on this page: http://www.librarything.com/work/18147977/descriptions but maybe it's on a different language site?

2282wonderY
Bewerkt: aug 23, 2018, 10:09 am

>226 elenchus: & 227 The CK log says it's in Italian. Odd. That member has a large private catalog. I wonder if there is more spam embedded elsewhere.

2292wonderY
aug 23, 2018, 10:12 am

http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?f=textid&q=3841926

only shows
INDICE 7, Introduzione di Morris L. Ghezzi 1. Cattaneo e gli Stati Uniti d'Italia 19, 2. Cattaneo, Maria Teresa d'Austria e il controllo locale del fisco FEDERALISMO 33, Nazione armata e federalismo 34, Le patrie locali 36, L'errore del centralismo 37, L'illusione della costituente 28, Un esperimento di servitù comunale 39, Bisogna che le regioni si sveglino 41, Per la libertà dei comuni piccoli 44, Armi e libertà per tutte le nazioni dell'imperio, ognuna entro i suoi confini.

not the spam link shown http://www.librarything.com/more/haiku

2302wonderY
aug 23, 2018, 10:32 am

This is not a Spam exam I'm familiar with, so I'm just poking around.

http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?t=1&f=57

shows two spam profiles adding haiku to works not specified.

So profiles
http://www.librarything.com/profile/greeceapostille
http://www.librarything.com/profile/chileapostille

have already been suspended.

Guessing they had added spam works that are also gone?

Those names do look familiar.

231gilroy
aug 23, 2018, 10:42 am

>230 2wonderY: Well, you dinged the chile one back in >207 2wonderY:

2322wonderY
aug 23, 2018, 10:54 am

Good. That confirms my theory. So the fact that the material is still in the log that >226 elenchus: points to should not pose a problem, eh?

233elenchus
aug 23, 2018, 11:03 am

Thanks for digging in, everyone. I did not understand how the spam was appearing on the haiku page without it showing on the work's haiku summary. Feel better now that others have looked at it!

234norabelle414
aug 23, 2018, 11:10 am

>232 2wonderY: I think it's not ideal, but it's a problem with that haiku page and not with a particular work

2352wonderY
aug 23, 2018, 11:17 am

Checked the target film in >184 2wonderY: and found more Spam review by https://www.librarything.com/profile/aquila12

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2362wonderY
aug 23, 2018, 11:22 am

And by https://www.librarything.com/profile/snkcreation

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237gilroy
Bewerkt: aug 25, 2018, 1:48 pm

https://www.librarything.com/profile/davidcmoore
Same Author from >203 gilroy:. Joined in June 2018, warned July 2018

Flag him, he's been warned once before and continues to spam.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/295391
https://www.librarything.com/topic/295390

238norabelle414
aug 27, 2018, 9:26 am

Definitely spam, but I can't tell if it's an enthusiastic author or not so I haven't flagged the profile
http://www.librarything.com/topic/278971#6563423

2402wonderY
aug 28, 2018, 10:20 am

>208 2wonderY: Another Sandy Harper/Dr. Sukhraj S. Dhillon sock puppet:

http://www.librarything.com/profile/LiveWell

241gilroy
Bewerkt: aug 28, 2018, 10:33 am

>208 2wonderY: And another:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/FunLiving

>240 2wonderY: Photo used is Julianne Hough from Dancing with the Stars.

Are we flagging these or just tracking them for Lorannen?

2422wonderY
aug 28, 2018, 10:39 am

Just tracking. I haven't heard back from Loranne.

244norabelle414
Bewerkt: aug 28, 2018, 11:44 am

DocDhillon apologizes for promoting his own books in the game threads; worth noting because he specifically calls Sandy Harper his friend: http://www.librarything.com/topic/190778#6560119

(I'm also kind of laughing at the fact that he doesn't even know what books to talk about if he can't talk about his own books)

2452wonderY
aug 28, 2018, 11:50 am

And these accounts are friending each other. But their libraries are almost identical.

246lilithcat
aug 28, 2018, 1:41 pm

This thread is getting way too long.
Dit onderwerp werd voortgezet door Spam reporting thread #65.