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Information for covers in Charts and Graphs not correct

1newcrossbooks
aug 17, 2021, 4:32 pm

The number of covers shown in the new Charts and Graphs section does not add up to the number of books I have - only 4867 covers for 9600 books.

It appears that none of the covers I have uploaded since 2016 have been added to the total.

Also, when I look at the Amazon sourced covers I am supposed to be using, I find that some of my recently uploaded covers are not there, and that the books have no member uploaded covers.

For instance, from 8 August 2021:
https://www.librarything.com/work/24767063
https://www.librarything.com/work/26902578

and from 23 July 2021:
https://www.librarything.com/work/17973564

Is this a temporary glitch?

Do I need to reupload covers for these works (and lots of others)?

2conceptDawg
aug 17, 2021, 4:46 pm

We'll take a look and see why this is happening.

3AnnieMod
Bewerkt: aug 17, 2021, 4:47 pm

As is usual with new features in the middle of being deployed, there is a bugs thread for all issues in it: https://www.librarything.com/topic/334488

Never mind :) Apparently both ways work.

4SandraArdnas
aug 17, 2021, 6:03 pm

The old cover stat showed only automatically chosen covers, either from Amazon or member-uploaded, and none of the ones we upload or chose the one from another member. I think this has just inherited the same principle. My cover stats show for only 8 books, all the rest are not there at all

5newcrossbooks
aug 17, 2021, 6:15 pm

>4 SandraArdnas: My stats lists for covers: All 4,867
Amazon-provided cover 2,099
- Amazon-provided cover (ISBN) 2,075
- Amazon-provided cover (ASIN) 24

Member-uploaded cover 1,061
Member-uploaded cover, chosen by you 886
- Low-quality: Member-uploaded cover, chosen by you 91
- High-quality: Member-uploaded cover, chosen by you 795
Member-uploaded cover, best-guess for ISBN 175
- Low-quality: Member-uploaded cover, best-guess for ISBN 48
- High-quality: Member-uploaded cover, best-guess for ISBN 127

Blank cover 12

No cover 1,695

So there are some covers chosen by me - but probably none of the ones that I've uploaded

6timspalding
aug 17, 2021, 8:22 pm

Thanks. It was working yesterday, when we also realized the new code—which made it work—was messing up actual cover display. To fix it we had to break it, as it were. I'll be working on it today and tomorrow.

7kristilabrie
okt 4, 2021, 9:54 am

Bump. This is still happening.

8SandraArdnas
okt 4, 2021, 10:02 am

Indeed, mine still shows only 8. Among other things, it's not showing any I personally uploaded

9DuncanHill
okt 14, 2021, 7:52 am

Any news on this?

My total books according to https://www.librarything.com/stats/DuncanHill/covers has actually gone down by one since the 4th of October, even though my total according to https://www.librarything.com/catalog/DuncanHill has increased by three.

10DuncanHill
nov 23, 2021, 1:27 pm

Bump. Still wrong.

11kristilabrie
nov 23, 2021, 4:08 pm

Thanks for the reminder, please keep doing so until the developers can get into this.

12PawsforThought
jan 1, 2022, 1:19 pm

This is still an issue

13DuncanHill
mrt 1, 2022, 10:55 pm

And two months after the last message it is still an issue.

14gilroy
mrt 2, 2022, 8:32 am

I always thought that they never gave us a stat for our personal photos uploaded, because they didn't track them prior to a certain point and as such didn't include them in any counts. Notice that none of the stats on that page show anything regarding your uploads. Just Amazon photos and covers based on guess or selection. Nothing at all about uploads.

15lemontwist
jun 14, 2022, 6:04 pm

Bump. My graph for covers is absurdly incorrect. It says I only have 112 books when I have "All Books" selected. I have 2,900 books catalogued here.

16kristilabrie
jun 15, 2022, 8:09 am

>15 lemontwist: Thanks for the reminder, I'm passing the reminder to the developers.

17DuncanHill
jan 13, 2023, 4:31 am

Bump!

This is still wrong.

https://www.librarything.com/stats/DuncanHill/covers says I have 1918 books.
https://www.librarything.com/profile says I have 3645

18MarthaJeanne
jan 13, 2023, 11:14 am

I'm missing over 1 000 books there, too.

19gilroy
jan 13, 2023, 1:23 pm

I did some poking into this and I have discovered this information:
-- If you've uploaded a cover photo, it's not counting it.
-- If you've actively chosen a cover (gone through the options and picked one), it's not counting it.

Most important
-- If the system is guessing a cover, it is counting it.
-- If there is no cover, it is counting it.

Now the question is why is the code set up like this?

20AnnieMod
Bewerkt: jan 13, 2023, 2:06 pm

>19 gilroy: I can confirm that - the collections where I know I had selected and/or uploaded a cover show no books at all.

It almost feels like a "fix these covers because they can change or because you have no covers" module and not a "Covers" module.

21SandraArdnas
jan 13, 2023, 3:46 pm

>19 gilroy: That would explain why I have only 8 covers in stats. All the other others are either uploaded by me or chosen from member covers. The 8 are from wishlist, since I didn't bother with those. Great find, which will hopefully lead to speedy fix by developers.

22knerd.knitter
feb 28, 2023, 4:06 pm

Verified counts are wrong:

https://www.librarything.com/stats/DuncanHill/covers - hovering over the All indicates 1913 books.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/DuncanHill - says 3734 books

23SandraArdnas
feb 28, 2023, 5:09 pm

>22 knerd.knitter: Here is mine if you need another, rather extreme example https://www.librarything.com/stats/SandraArdnas/covers

It counts only 8 of +3000 books. Apparently, covers we uploaded and member-uploaded covers we've explicit chosen do not count. In my case, that's all expect for those 8 in wishlist, which have the default cover given by the system for that ISBN

24lemontwist
apr 2, 2023, 12:19 pm

Bump!

25lemontwist
mei 8, 2023, 7:36 pm

bumping again

26knerd.knitter
Bewerkt: mei 25, 2023, 10:40 am

I may have a solution for this problem; basically, a type was getting left out of the counts (something that seems to be "custom"), but I don't know exactly what the type means. I can at least add it in so the counts add up to the right value (I think), and you can click through to the catalog. However, I can't say how they're different from other covers...

27lorax
Bewerkt: mei 25, 2023, 2:40 pm

Deleted.

28knerd.knitter
Bewerkt: mei 25, 2023, 11:05 am

>19 gilroy: I did some poking into this and I have discovered this information:
-- If you've uploaded a cover photo, it's not counting it.
-- If you've actively chosen a cover (gone through the options and picked one), it's not counting it.

Most important
-- If the system is guessing a cover, it is counting it.
-- If there is no cover, it is counting it.


yeah, that seems to be it... when I went to the "no covers" and selected a cover for that then that book moved from "no covers" to "custom"

Not sure why those don't fall into the other chosen by you... maybe it's when we can't determine the quality of it? because the member-uploaded cover section is all divided into low and high quality?

Updating the chart at least so that the counts match up now.

29lorax
Bewerkt: mei 25, 2023, 2:54 pm

So how do I get covers out of "custom"? They're all member-uploaded chosen by me. Most of them are high quality. I try re-selecting the cover and it stays as "custom".

Doing some investigation, it looks like all books added after May 18, 2016 have a "custom" cover - that's the latest date for which my stats show a "high quality, chosen by you" cover. Some older books do as well but I'm guessing those are ones where I chose the current cover after that date. Were there any changes made to the cover code around that time?

Edited to add: Wasn't able to find the culprit, but I was able to find an old bug report of what is clearly the same issue: https://www.librarything.com/topic/277593

If you're trying to force us back to Amazon covers it's not working!

30lorax
mei 25, 2023, 3:38 pm

It occurs to me that my hypothesis could be tested by someone uploading a new cover for something currently showing as "Member-uploaded cover, chosen by you" - if the uploaded date of the cover is what's causing the problem, this would shove it into "Custom".

I don't want to make my stats worse than they already are, so I won't be testing this myself.

31lorax
mei 25, 2023, 3:56 pm

Re-opening. Mis-classifying a large number of my covers is not "fixed".

32knerd.knitter
mei 25, 2023, 4:36 pm

>31 lorax: Please open a new bug report explaining the new problem.

33lorax
mei 26, 2023, 10:04 am