Collection as part of a Publishers Series?
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1rretzler
I'm in the process of cleaning up the Publisher's Series British Library Classic Crime series, and I have a procedural/best practices question. It probably relates more to the definition of a work, but since it's also a series question, I thought I'd look here for opinions.
Each year, the British Library releases several books in the British Library Classic Crime series - previously each year's releases were numbered. For example, the first year was Series 1, second year was Series 2, etc. Each series includes approximately 6 individual books.
There is currently a "work" in LT which is British Library Crime Classics 12 Books Collection - Series 5 and 6. IMO, this is not really a work - because it is actually 12 separate works (which all included in LT separately.) These books may be purchased together, British Library Crime Classics Series 5 on Amazon, but this is more for convenience sake as this is not one actual book.
Also, the authors for this work are technically not correct either because there are certainly more than 2 authors for this 12 work set, even though there is some possible repetition. Admitedly, I am nitpicking here.
This "work" has been included in the Publisher's Series and I don't think it should be because it is not actually a work. I have moved it out of the Core, but I think it should just be removed.
Thoughts?
Each year, the British Library releases several books in the British Library Classic Crime series - previously each year's releases were numbered. For example, the first year was Series 1, second year was Series 2, etc. Each series includes approximately 6 individual books.
There is currently a "work" in LT which is British Library Crime Classics 12 Books Collection - Series 5 and 6. IMO, this is not really a work - because it is actually 12 separate works (which all included in LT separately.) These books may be purchased together, British Library Crime Classics Series 5 on Amazon, but this is more for convenience sake as this is not one actual book.
Also, the authors for this work are technically not correct either because there are certainly more than 2 authors for this 12 work set, even though there is some possible repetition. Admitedly, I am nitpicking here.
This "work" has been included in the Publisher's Series and I don't think it should be because it is not actually a work. I have moved it out of the Core, but I think it should just be removed.
Thoughts?
2Maddz
I'd treat it the same way as any other omnibus or boxed set.
Move it out of Core into Collections and Selections, change the series index to indicate which individual books are included and make sure the individual books are added in the work-to-work relationships.
Move it out of Core into Collections and Selections, change the series index to indicate which individual books are included and make sure the individual books are added in the work-to-work relationships.
3AnnieMod
If someone added it, it is a work for LT and even if you remove it now, someone will add it again one day. So I’d do what >2 Maddz: describes.
4rretzler
>2 Maddz: >3 AnnieMod: Thanks, I was already half-way there. I'll just add the work-to-work relationships.
5Maddz
>4 rretzler: Looking at that series, it might be a good idea to change the various series indices to indicate which sub-series the individual volumes belong to.
At the moment, it's rather unstructured.
At the moment, it's rather unstructured.
6rretzler
>5 Maddz: Unfortunately if you are talking about the entire publisher's series, there isn't enough information available to be able to do so, nor do I think it would be particularly helpful. I have the majority of the books and I know dividing them further doesn't really give any additional information.
The reason there are "sub-series" as you call them, is that each year the British Library (in the UK) or Poisoned Pen Press (in the US) would release a number of books in the publisher's series - usually 6, but sometimes more or less. Instead of buying each book separately, one could wait until the end of the year to buy all the releases at once. The problem is that the books weren't always released in the UK and the US at the same time. Some of the US releases were actually a year or so after the UK releases. I also believe that some of the books have not actually been released in the US.
I had the help of someone at the British Library who gave me a PDF of the books in the series, but it was old information and didn't include some of the 2021 UK releases or the 2022 UK releases (which of course means that it was missing more US releases.)
I had attempted, for my own edification, to try to identify the "sub-series". Right now the numbered years only go up to Series 13, and are based on the release dates for the UK British Library series. The books published by Poisoned Pen Press are also called the British Library Crime Classics, and are the same books, just published at different times. There are at least 30 additional books, dating from 2014 (early in the publisher's series) all the way up to 2022, which are not identified as being part of a "sub-series".
As I stated in my first post, it is more for convenience sake that there are numbered sets. So I really don't think there would be any use to try to classify them this way. I believe it would just add more to the confusion. And I'm sure that I've likely confused everyone that is trying to read this, so you will have to trust that I don't think adding this information will bring any clarity. I have spent hours and hours trying to identify all of these books, dates published in both US and UK, where to purchase each book, and a whole lot of other information that no one could ever possibly want (except me). 😂
The reason there are "sub-series" as you call them, is that each year the British Library (in the UK) or Poisoned Pen Press (in the US) would release a number of books in the publisher's series - usually 6, but sometimes more or less. Instead of buying each book separately, one could wait until the end of the year to buy all the releases at once. The problem is that the books weren't always released in the UK and the US at the same time. Some of the US releases were actually a year or so after the UK releases. I also believe that some of the books have not actually been released in the US.
I had the help of someone at the British Library who gave me a PDF of the books in the series, but it was old information and didn't include some of the 2021 UK releases or the 2022 UK releases (which of course means that it was missing more US releases.)
I had attempted, for my own edification, to try to identify the "sub-series". Right now the numbered years only go up to Series 13, and are based on the release dates for the UK British Library series. The books published by Poisoned Pen Press are also called the British Library Crime Classics, and are the same books, just published at different times. There are at least 30 additional books, dating from 2014 (early in the publisher's series) all the way up to 2022, which are not identified as being part of a "sub-series".
As I stated in my first post, it is more for convenience sake that there are numbered sets. So I really don't think there would be any use to try to classify them this way. I believe it would just add more to the confusion. And I'm sure that I've likely confused everyone that is trying to read this, so you will have to trust that I don't think adding this information will bring any clarity. I have spent hours and hours trying to identify all of these books, dates published in both US and UK, where to purchase each book, and a whole lot of other information that no one could ever possibly want (except me). 😂
