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Snuff door Terry Pratchett
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Snuff (origineel 2011; editie 2011)

door Terry Pratchett

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Snuff: A Novel of Discworld by Terry Pratchett (2011)
Lid:DangerousBeans
Titel:Snuff
Auteurs:Terry Pratchett
Info:Doubleday (2011), Edition: First Edition, Hardcover
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Snuif door Terry Pratchett (2011)

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These are never long enough. We laugh and laugh! Stephen Briggs is our favorite narrator. He does such a splendid job. Some of the lines were priceless! Oh how we miss Sir Pratchett. All of his books are so wonderful that it is a delight to listen again. That is some consolation. ( )
  njcur | Sep 18, 2021 |
My idea of a holiday book. Sam Vimes, Lady Sybil and young Sam warm the cockles. The vermin to human arc is a slap to the conscience. ( )
  Je9 | Aug 10, 2021 |
And so it ends.

Yes, sir, thank you, sir, and I wouldn’t trust me one little inch, sir. I knows a bad one when I sees them. I have a mirror.

[b:Snuff|8785374|Snuff (Discworld, #39; City Watch #8)|Terry Pratchett|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1302694636s/8785374.jpg|13659124] is the last of the City Watch subseries (so it's back to the Industrial Revolution with [b:Moving Pictures|34510|Moving Pictures (Discworld, #10; Industrial Revolution, #1)|Terry Pratchett|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1320456553s/34510.jpg|1229354] for me).

In a nutshell, Vimes is maneuvered into going on vacation out to the country--to his country estates to be more precise. Of course, he stumbles right into a tangle of crime and of course he has to save the day.

This is the first time I particularly remember hearing about goblins in the Discworld, which might be because of the order I'm reading the books in or it might be I've just forgotten. But in any case, it feels like a plot we've seen before: a race of beings is different enough from what everyone else considers people that they're second class citizens at best (kept as slaves and/or exterminated like vermin at worst). Vimes gets involved, discovers what makes them just as worth of 'human' rights as anyone else and inducts one or more into the Watch. It's a story we've seen before, but that doesn't make it any less interesting thought provoking.

On the plus side, the Goblin culture was interesting. Vimes' interactions with the Summoning Dark (from [b:Thud!|62530|Thud! (Discworld, #34; City Watch #7)|Terry Pratchett|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1320495268s/62530.jpg|819104]) underscore a much darker sort of book, with Vimes teetering rather close (and arguably) crossing that thin thin line on several occasions.

On the down side, we know from the get go how everything is going to play out. We know Vimes. And he has entirely too many powerful friends now, which he name drops surprisingly often. We also get rather little of the other members of the Watch which I'd really grown to enjoy reading about. This wouldn't hurt as much were this not the last in this subseries.

Overall, it's a solid enough book and worth reading for completeness sake, but given that it's the last focussed on these particular characters, it could have been better.

Do not seek perfection. None exists. All we can do is strive. ( )
  jpv0 | Jul 21, 2021 |
Commander/Duke Sam Vimes goes on holiday with his wife and son to Lady Sybil's ancestral home. Of course, Sam cannot stand all of the peace and quiet, and is quickly ensconced in the heinous murder of a goblin girl. Once again, his moral compass prevails over the local magistrates' smuggling activities and prevailing law that says that goblins are property, not sentient beings. In the end, Sam's cause is championed by Sybil assisted by a harp virtuoso girl goblin. Sam is the best character in Discworld. ( )
  skipstern | Jul 11, 2021 |
I'm a huge fan of the Discworld and the City Watch books in particular but I didn't care for Snuff as much as I could have -- or should have. Down in my gut I feel Commander Sam Vimes has had a great run but now he's so over-powerful, so unbeatable, and full of so many powerful allies (Vetinari, Lady Sybil, his unstoppable assassin-butler, the demon who lives in his head, every City Watch post ever, etc) he's no longer much of a joy to read. He has no challenge. He has no mountain to climb. The term for this is Mary Sue, and Vimes has become a Mary Sue character.

I would have happily rolled with Vimes, Duke of Ankh-Morpork if the book had turned into a commentary on Upstairs-Downstairs like it promised in the beginning, or would have kept to the city and focused on the goblins, or simply had more focus /in general/. Too much was going on and not enough was going on that had focus. We had some Class Warfare AND smuggling AND murderers AND drugs AND poor oppressed goblins whom no one understands AND What Happens to Fred Colon AND Vimes Taking Charge... the book lacked focus and the lack of focus took away from the more interesting action sequences and themes. Oppression bad, yes. But it didn't have the feeling of freeing an oppressed people like, say, Feet of Clay did, even though it was, at its core, the same story.

I would have been happier, perhaps with two books: Vimes investigating a MURDER in a Countryside Upstairs-Downstairs and a more focused story about the Goblins. Or something to that effect. Much like Unseen Academicals, Snuff is a long way from being unreadable but I had to force myself to finish it. It didn't grab me the same way Discworld books normally do. It's no "The Times" or "Going Postal." If I had to rank them, Snuff would dwell somewhere in the bottom third.

A high point: the continuation of Wee Mad Arthur's education as a Nac Mac Feegle from _I Shall Wear Midnight_. I adore the Feegles and having one who isn't Rob Anybody's crew is always good.

Here's hoping PTerry still has a few books left in him -- and if they are City Watch books, they star Carrot and Angua and Cheery and the crew. ( )
  multiplexer | Jun 20, 2021 |
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Pratchett is a master storyteller. He is endlessly inventive, even when telling a routine kind of tale. He gives you more information and more story than you need, just because he can, and this is completely satisfying. He is a master of complex jokes, good bad jokes, good dreadful jokes and a kind of insidious wisdom about human nature (and other forms of alien nature). I think his mad footnotes are there because he can't stop his mind whirring, and our whirring minds go with him. I read his books at a gallop and then reread them every time I am ill or exhausted.
toegevoegd door riverwillow | bewerkThe Guardian, A.S Byatt (Oct 21, 2011)
 

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