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Brieven aan Malcolm over het gebed (1964)

door C. S. Lewis

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In the form of warm, relaxed letters to a close friend, C. S. Lewis meditates on many puzzling questions concerning the intimate dialogue between man and God. He considers practical and metaphysical aspects of prayer, such as when we pray and where. He questions why we seek to inform God in our prayers if he is omniscient, whether there is an ideal form of prayer, and which of our many selves we show to God while praying. The concluding letter contains provocative thoughts about "liberal Christians," the soul, and resurrection.… (meer)
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 Friends of Jack (C.S. Lewis): Letters to Malcom7 ongelezen / 7eschator83, december 2016

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There is no preface, description, or backstory given to this volume of letters (or to any of the letters individually). Nowhere in the book or the title or the backcover does it even say who Malcolm was(/is). So its interesting in that there's no knowledge of who anyone is (other than obviously knowing who CS Lewis is), and knowing nothing about the letters other than that the general theme will be 'prayer'.

There is also no return letters from Malcolm, so everything is in kind of just a vacuum. No dates, no explanations behind anything, just 'here you go'.

I'm not a religious man really by any stretch anymore (grew up in a Christian house, grew up always going to church). I'm not anti-religious, just more or less 'non-religious'. BUT, I've always been intrigued and fond of CS Lewis' writing, both theological and fictional. ... this grouping of letters though, leaves something to be desired though. Without knowing the context (not getting to know who Malcolm is, or seeing his letters), it's a bit odd. Plus there's jumps in context because of it. The book also closes out on their talk of heaven and getting to meet in real life again, but not much of a closure on the ending.

Overall interesting, but just more of a curiosity sake than anything else. A few theological gems in there however. And interesting read for those seeking enlightenment on prayer though.

_____EDIT:
Well.... after reading the bio of the 'novel' here, I see its all fictitious letters that CS Lewis wrote, in the same vain as The Screwtape Letters. (Might be why the only writing on the front/back cover of this is a blurb saying "From the writer of The Screwtape Letters".) Would have been nice to know it was fictional letters rather than thinking this was his real letters to an individual, might have given some context. This was in the religion section at the Hershey Library, which includes both fictional and non-fictional religious works, so there was no indicator of that. Well, at least it was good to find out and not be ignorant of that in the future, heh. ( )
  BenKline | Dec 6, 2023 |
There is no preface, description, or backstory given to this volume of letters (or to any of the letters individually). Nowhere in the book or the title or the backcover does it even say who Malcolm was(/is). So its interesting in that there's no knowledge of who anyone is (other than obviously knowing who CS Lewis is), and knowing nothing about the letters other than that the general theme will be 'prayer'.

There is also no return letters from Malcolm, so everything is in kind of just a vacuum. No dates, no explanations behind anything, just 'here you go'.

I'm not a religious man really by any stretch anymore (grew up in a Christian house, grew up always going to church). I'm not anti-religious, just more or less 'non-religious'. BUT, I've always been intrigued and fond of CS Lewis' writing, both theological and fictional. ... this grouping of letters though, leaves something to be desired though. Without knowing the context (not getting to know who Malcolm is, or seeing his letters), it's a bit odd. Plus there's jumps in context because of it. The book also closes out on their talk of heaven and getting to meet in real life again, but not much of a closure on the ending.

Overall interesting, but just more of a curiosity sake than anything else. A few theological gems in there however. And interesting read for those seeking enlightenment on prayer though.

_____EDIT:
Well.... after reading the bio of the 'novel' here, I see its all fictitious letters that CS Lewis wrote, in the same vain as The Screwtape Letters. (Might be why the only writing on the front/back cover of this is a blurb saying "From the writer of The Screwtape Letters".) Would have been nice to know it was fictional letters rather than thinking this was his real letters to an individual, might have given some context. This was in the religion section at the Hershey Library, which includes both fictional and non-fictional religious works, so there was no indicator of that. Well, at least it was good to find out and not be ignorant of that in the future, heh. ( )
  BenKline | Sep 20, 2023 |
There is no preface, description, or backstory given to this volume of letters (or to any of the letters individually). Nowhere in the book or the title or the backcover does it even say who Malcolm was(/is). So its interesting in that there's no knowledge of who anyone is (other than obviously knowing who CS Lewis is), and knowing nothing about the letters other than that the general theme will be 'prayer'.

There is also no return letters from Malcolm, so everything is in kind of just a vacuum. No dates, no explanations behind anything, just 'here you go'.

I'm not a religious man really by any stretch anymore (grew up in a Christian house, grew up always going to church). I'm not anti-religious, just more or less 'non-religious'. BUT, I've always been intrigued and fond of CS Lewis' writing, both theological and fictional. ... this grouping of letters though, leaves something to be desired though. Without knowing the context (not getting to know who Malcolm is, or seeing his letters), it's a bit odd. Plus there's jumps in context because of it. The book also closes out on their talk of heaven and getting to meet in real life again, but not much of a closure on the ending.

Overall interesting, but just more of a curiosity sake than anything else. A few theological gems in there however. And interesting read for those seeking enlightenment on prayer though.

_____EDIT:
Well.... after reading the bio of the 'novel' here, I see its all fictitious letters that CS Lewis wrote, in the same vain as The Screwtape Letters. (Might be why the only writing on the front/back cover of this is a blurb saying "From the writer of The Screwtape Letters".) Would have been nice to know it was fictional letters rather than thinking this was his real letters to an individual, might have given some context. This was in the religion section at the Hershey Library, which includes both fictional and non-fictional religious works, so there was no indicator of that. Well, at least it was good to find out and not be ignorant of that in the future, heh. ( )
  BenKline | Aug 14, 2023 |
多年前買的書,今天終於看完。我覺得魯益師真的很有趣,他是一個很認真思考的人,對於知識份子對基督教會友怎樣的質疑也很了解,在書裡會略微提及,也會提出他對於他們質疑的內容的想法。他的回應不是那種「信就對了」的單純相信路線,他真的很認真在思考、會對一些未知事物做一些猜想。如果你也愛思考,讀他的書會很過癮。這本書主要是談各種禱告的內容以及禱告的功能,過程中略略談到決定論、神秘經歷、人與神如何連結、人的歡愉、懺悔、聖餐禮、新天新地、身體復活....等議題。

我買了這本書之後的多年來一直以為這本書是他與友人之間的書信往來集結而成。真的閱讀,然後去調查他到底是寫信給誰之後,發現寫信對象完全是虛構人物,只是以書信體為媒介,陳述自己對禱告與信仰的思考。太震驚了哈哈。他寫的真的很像真的信。 ( )
  CathyChou | Mar 11, 2022 |
What is there to be said that has not been said before about Clive Staples Lewis? So my review will be short.

His musings left me yearning for a simpler time when letter-writing wasn't an art-form, when discussion and disagreement wasn't a declaration of personal war, and when it was kosher to talk about such things. I was also highly impressed at the small, but poignant, backstory he created for his correspondent. ( )
  OutOfTheBestBooks | Sep 24, 2021 |
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Lewis, gerespecteerd om onconventionele studies over o.m. engelen en verdriet, schrijft hier, zonder enige concessie dan hoe het hoort over wat hij doet als hij bidt. Bidden bewerkt een verandering - van passief naar actief - '... in plaats van slechts bekend te zijn, tonen wij onszelf...' (p. 19). Ter sprake komen de gebedshouding, de bedes van het Onze Vader, gebedsintenties, (ver)horen van gebed e.a. Dit boekje bevat 22 brieven van Lewis. Ze worden niet ingeleid. Daarom weet de lezer niet wie Malcolm is aan wie de brieven gericht zijn en waarom zijn aandeel in de correspondentie ontbreekt. Verbazing wekt ook het tijdstip van verschijnen: de eerste druk van de Nederlandse vertaling verscheen 25 jaar na het overlijden van de auteur. Een (korte) verantwoording is gepast bij een uitgave als deze! Ten slotte: het boekje leest vlot, bevat veel heldere uitspraken en puntige formuleringen die de lezer uitnodigen zelf verder te denken. Aanbevolen voor ieder die de weeë smaak die veel lectuur over bidden teweegbrengt, weg wil slikken.
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And this, you see, makes the choice between ready-made prayers and one's own words rather less important for me than it apparently is for you.  For me words are in any case secondary.  They are only an anchor.  Or, shall I say, they are the movements of a conductor's baton: not the music.  They serve to canalise the worship or penitence or petition which might without them--such are our minds--spread into wide and shallow puddles.  It does not matter very much who first put them together.  If they are our own words they will soon, by unavoidable repetition, harden into a formula.  If they are someone els's, we shall continually pour into them our own meaning.   [p. 11]
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In the form of warm, relaxed letters to a close friend, C. S. Lewis meditates on many puzzling questions concerning the intimate dialogue between man and God. He considers practical and metaphysical aspects of prayer, such as when we pray and where. He questions why we seek to inform God in our prayers if he is omniscient, whether there is an ideal form of prayer, and which of our many selves we show to God while praying. The concluding letter contains provocative thoughts about "liberal Christians," the soul, and resurrection.

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