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This Rough Magic (2003)

door Mercedes Lackey, Eric Flint, Dave Freer

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Reeksen: Heirs of Alexandria (2)

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"Corfu in the sixteenth century. Key to Asia. Repository of a magic older than history itself. No wonder the demon Chernobog must possess the island - for with it in his grasp, Chernobog can finally crush Venice and defeat his immortal enemy, the Lion of San Marcos, who thwarted his previous bid for absolute power." "Now all hope depends on the derring-do of the small band of heroes who fought against the demon before - and the inner strength of one reluctant young heroine. For the ancient powers of Corfu care nothing for either Chernobog's lust for power, nor the human desire for freedom." "And anyone who would wield the island's primordial magic must pay with a piece of his - or her - soul."--BOOK JACKET.… (meer)
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The Heirs of Alexandria series, by Mercedes Lackey, Eric Flint and Dave Freer. These are historical fantasies (c.1440 AD) set in an alternate universe. They are mostly set in Venice or the Eastern Mediterranean. The break point is the death of Hypatia in 415 AD; in this universe she survived and became a colleague of John Chrystostom, founding the Hypatian Order. The other thing is that magic and magical beings exist. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heirs_of_Alexandria_series for more information.

1 Heirs of Alexandria, by Mercedes Lackey, Eric Flint and Dave Freer​
Set in 1437+1438 in Venice. Orphan half-brothers Marco and Benito Valdosta acquire a protector and become involved in the politics of the city, saving it from a threat posed by Jagellion, Grand Duke of Lithuania (who has been taken over by a demon). They become involved with Manfred of Brittany, second heir to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles Frederick Hohenstauffen, and his Vinlander bodyguard, Eric Haakonson, who foils a plot by a religious order, the Servants of the Trinity, and their secular arm, the Knights of the Trinity.

2 This Rough Magic, by Mercedes Lackey, Eric Flint and Dave Freer​
Set in 1438-1439 in Venice & Corfu. Marco stays behind in Venice, Benito is exiled to Corfu (we won't mention why). Manfred and Erik head to Jerusalem. King Emeric of Hungary decides to invade Corfu with assistance from his long-lved 'aunt', Elizabeth Bathory, and Jagellion..

2.5 A Mankind Witch, by Dave Freer​
Set in 1438-1439 in Telemark (one of the Scandinavian kingdoms). A Barbary corsair on a plundering expedition to the north is shipwrecked and taken as a thrall in Telemark. He is given to the Princess Signy, who is under the subjection of her stepmother and half-brother (who is now the king).

3 Much Fall of Blood, by Mercedes Lackey, Eric Flint and Dave Freer​
Set in 1540-1541 in the Balkans and the Eurasian steppe. Following the invasion of Corfu, Benito is made acting governor and starts making feelers to Iskander Beg. Manfred and Eric continue their interrupted pilgrimage to Jerusalem, and end up escorting a Mongol ambassador from the Ilkhanate to their cousins in the Golden Horde. In Hungary, Elizabeth Bathory frees Vlad of Valachia from King Emeric - she has designs on him. Vlad escapes and falls in with a shapeshifter pack who take him back to Valachia where he raises the flag of rebellion.

4 Burdens of the Dead, by Mercedes Lackey, Eric Flint and Dave Freer​
Set in 1540-1541 in Constantinople and the Black Sea. Benito leads a fleet to invade the Byzantine Empire in order to depose Alexius (who has gone too far dealing with foreigners). The Ilkhanate are unhappy with the Baitani who have been fomenting trouble in the Black Sea.

I very much like this series; it's the sort of fantasy I enjoy. As #5 is due out later this year, I thought it best to refresh my memory (although I probably won't get it until the paperback comes out...) . Somewhat reminiscent of the Merovingen Nights sharecrop (especially the first in the series), but fantasy rather than SF. Each book is a standalone, but it helps to have read the previous to understand the politics (apart from A Mankind Witch which is a true-standalone). I do like these - they're an epic romp through early renaissance politics - it's fun spotting the historical background and wondering what could have happened to so-and-so. The glaring omission is the Medici in Florence; we see the Del Estes of Ferrara, the Visconti of Milan, and Carlo Sforza, but no mention of the Medici (Florence is mentioned, but doesn't seem to be one of the great city states in this version of history). The other thing is that there seems to be some conflation of history; partly because of the different timeline and partly because of the old magical beings still extant.

Recommended. (Similar are: The Kushiel series by Jacqueline Carey although this version has Christianity, and also the Instrumentalities of the Night series by Glen Cook. The Mongol Empire is similar to the Assassini series by Jon Courtney Grimwood.)
  Maddz | Jul 12, 2018 |
While I like this series just fine, and This Rough Magic is a perfectly acceptable entry, I don't like it as much as its predecessor for a couple reasons.

The pacing issues I mentioned in my review of the previous book become almost overwhelming here. This is not so much a book as a collection of three separate novels about the same people spliced together - my paperback copy is 900 pages long. It's hard to pick out what needed to be cut, though, because it's all solid writing and tight plotting - there's just too much of it. And the magical adventure at the end feels distinctly tacked-on - it's foreshadowed well enough, but for being the big emotional climax of the main relationship conflict, it's got next to no time spent on it compared to the rest of the book.

I also have mixed feelings about the female villains and their relationship to sex and power. There's a lot of talk of how many and what kinds of beings one has to fuck to become an immortal dark sorceress, and it feels a little obsessive. There are some interesting things done with the con-artist and his harem of bored housewives, but the actual magicians just don't quite ring true. There's also no mention of the humiliating and painful sex male evil wizards must have in order to gain power, which is probably what bugs me.

So, overall, still like the series, but it's not one I come back to often. It's not quite worth the immense time it takes to slog through it. ( )
  JeremyPreacher | Mar 30, 2013 |
This is a adequate follow up to the first novel (The Shadow of the Lion) - again nothing hugely original. All of the romantic loose ends are tied up as expected. ( )
  francescadefreitas | Dec 14, 2006 |
Sequel to a previous novel, this is very readable and actually a better read than the previous one! ( )
  wyvernfriend | Oct 9, 2005 |
Heirs of Alexandria #2
  Ronald.Marcil | Jul 7, 2019 |
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Lackey, Mercedesprimaire auteuralle editiesbevestigd
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Freer, Daveprimaire auteuralle editiesbevestigd
Dixon, LarryArtiest omslagafbeeldingSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Russo, CarolOmslagontwerperSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
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"Corfu in the sixteenth century. Key to Asia. Repository of a magic older than history itself. No wonder the demon Chernobog must possess the island - for with it in his grasp, Chernobog can finally crush Venice and defeat his immortal enemy, the Lion of San Marcos, who thwarted his previous bid for absolute power." "Now all hope depends on the derring-do of the small band of heroes who fought against the demon before - and the inner strength of one reluctant young heroine. For the ancient powers of Corfu care nothing for either Chernobog's lust for power, nor the human desire for freedom." "And anyone who would wield the island's primordial magic must pay with a piece of his - or her - soul."--BOOK JACKET.

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