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Mythago Woud (1988)

door Robert Holdstock

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Reeksen: Ryhope Wood (1), Ryhope Wood - Chronological order (3)

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Deep within the wildwood lies a place of myth and mystery, from which few return, and none remain unchanged. Ryhope Wood may look like a three-mile-square fenced-in wood in rural Herefordshire on the outside, but inside, it is a primeval, intricate labyrinth of trees, impossibly huge, unforgettable . . . and stronger than time itself. Stephen Huxley has already lost his father to the mysteries of Ryhope Wood. On his return from the Second World War, he finds his brother, Christopher, is also in thrall to the mysterious wood, wherein lies a realm where mythic archetypes grow flesh and blood, where love and beauty haunt your dreams, and in promises of freedom lies the sanctuary of insanity . . .… (meer)
  1. 10
    Last Call door Tim Powers (grizzly.anderson)
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    The Centaur door Algernon Blackwood (Farree)
    Farree: Where Blackwood explores the Urwelt, or 'Primordial Planetary Consciousness' from the point of view of someone merging with it, Holdstock explores it from the point of view of someone exploring the physical manifestation of it in the land.
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    The Commons door Matthew Hughes (bertilak)
    bertilak: Two different takes on the theme of the collective unconscious.
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    Green Mansions door W. H. Hudson (bertilak)
    bertilak: Contrast Hudson's romanticized handling of the 'wild girl in the woods' theme with Holdstock's raw version.
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    Dance of the Dwarfs door Geoffrey Household (bertilak)
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    Our Lady of Darkness door Fritz Leiber (LamontCranston)
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    Other Kingdoms door Richard Matheson (LamontCranston)
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    In the Night Wood door Dale Bailey (Jannes)
    Jannes: Shares the "house next to primordial, mythic wood" setting as well as a few other themes and tropes. If you enjoy one you're likely to like the other.
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    Silver in the Wood door Emily Tesh (Jannes)
  10. 12
    Solaris door Stanisław Lem (bertilak)
    bertilak: Monsters from the id! (Just like in Forbidden Planet, kids).
  11. 01
    Bridge of Birds door Barry Hughart (fugitive)
    fugitive: Co-winner (with this book) in 1985 of the World Fantasy Award (Novel).
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Glancing at a few reviews before reading this I could see that this was one of those books that was polarizing - some people love it, many people don't. I had nibbled on this many years ago but never got going. Gave the book away after it sat on my shelf a long time. Always felt a little guilty about not tackling what I thought was a classic of '80s fantasy. It won the World Fantasy award in 1985. I saw a nice copy recently and picked it up. Started reading it and liked the premise, even if everything is more than a little murky. Large bits of this are incomprehensible mixed with stuff one can understand and be drawn into. Maybe one needs to be more knowledgeable of myths beyond Arthur and Robin Hood to have an appreciation for what is going on in the book. I like the idea of this small ancient forest that has survived since the last ice age but all the strange mental myth creation or whatever it is was just weird.

Read some of the reviews if you are curious. I have a hard time trying to describe this but overall I am glad I read it, but couldn't quite enjoy the strangeness of it all. ( )
  RBeffa | Dec 20, 2023 |
Mixed feelings about this one. The first section is one of the most atmospheric dark fantasies I've had the pleasure of reading. The slow progression of horror, of being simultaneously engulfed by a malevolent wood and by the legacy of a parent, is genuinely haunting.

The rest of the novel was inventive, but exchanges much of the psychological horror for a more linear adventure narrative. There's an interesting character study embedded here - Stephen is Guiwenneth; she is his anima. Likewise, the monsters that populate Ryhope Wood are aspects of a man whose childhood and war experience have left him deeply scarred. But Stephen never fully acknowledges the parallels between the wood's landscape and his internal landscape; till the end he views the mythagos as creatures to conquer or possess rather than externalized aspects of his psyche. If his lack of self-awareness was meant to be an indictment of the character, it was too subtle to register with this reader.

Nevertheless, Ryhope Wood was quite a setting. I don't think I've read another work that fully captured the experience of stumbling upon a ruin in the woods and feeling as if you've been transported into the past, or into a dream. The Celtic and pre-Celtic elements are robust, although the fixation with "folklore as historical record" felt dated, and the whole "racial memory" thing is cringeworthy, if on brand for a 1940s setting.

On the whole an imperfect novel, but certainly succeeds as a work of imagination.
  raschneid | Dec 19, 2023 |
Fantasy story about a mysterious forest in which myths from the collective consciousnesses become real. The story of two brothers that own a cabin by a forest, which their father arduously studies but they do not understand much while young. Some strange events happen, and years later when the brothers grow they enter the forest and discover a range of mythical creatures (shamans, knights and the like) that protect and inhabit the forest. One brother (Christian) falls in love with a mythical women, but then she seems to die. He goes to search for her, and then the second brother (Steven) finds another incarnation of the same women and falls in love with her. Then Christian returns and kidnaps the women, a thing which makes Steven go and chase him through the forest. Many unrelated characters appear (and disappear as fast) and guide Steven through the forest. . The main characters seem not to be at all in control of their fate and seem to always "go with the flow", even if it does not make much sense. The whole story seems patched and not very all connected. It tries to give an impression of multiple myths intertwined but putting many unrelated stories and characters together needs in my opinion a bit stronger binding than the two brothers chasing something nebulous and always changing. Nicely written but the story seems to waste the potential of the setting. ( )
  vladmihaisima | Oct 18, 2023 |
Recuperai questo romanzo a una bancarella al mare: credo sia più o meno misconosciuto in Italia, uno di quei fantasy che hanno attraversato il mercato nostrano senza grande rumore e hanno lasciato una serie interrotta in più. Credo, infatti, che la Mondadori si sia arresa dopo il secondo... Peccato, tutto sommato non mi dispiaceva affatto.

Diciamo che La foresta dei Mitago ha due pecche: una fastidiosa, l'altra probabilmente contingente. La pecca fastidiosa è quella della protagonista femminile, Guiwenneth, che è così finta da non risultare credibile ed è lungi dal suscitare la simpatia del/della lettore/trice. Sono incerta sul fatto che dipenda dalla scarsa maestria di Holdstock nel tratteggiare un personaggio femminile o se fosse funzionale all'intera saga, ma comunque non mi è sembrata una scelta felice.

La pecca probabilmente contingente, invece, è quella dell'insufficiente focus sui Mitago, creature archetipiche create dalla mente umana e capaci di prendere forma fisica in alcuni boschi selvatici, come quello di Ryhope, dove è ambientato il romanzo. Holdstock spiega bene come si formano lungo tutto il corso del romanzo, ma allo stesso tempo i protagonisti hanno così poche interazioni con loro! Un po' perché Holdstock ha pensato di creare una barriera linguistica difficilmente sormontabile, un po' perché la narrazione finisce per focalizzarsi sulle difficoltà dei protagonisti.

Il che, per carità, non è un male in sé, ma sono frustrata dal fatto che Holdstock abbia avuto un'idea così interessante per poi lasciarla languire così: mi ha lasciato una maledetta curiosità di saperne di più sui Jaguth, tanto per dirne una! Il problema, però, potrebbe essere solo una SiPriLi: purtroppo non mi ricordo un tubo del secondo – sì, ho anche il secondo – per poter dire alcunché al riguardo. Vorrei rileggerlo: non appena mi ricorderò dove l'ho messo, provvederò...

Comunque, a parte queste piccole pecche, La foresta dei Mitago scorre che è una meraviglia: Holdstock è bravo a incuriosire il/la lettore/trice e a spingerl* avanti verso la conclusione della caccia. E a proposito di conclusioni... Il finale è abbastanza “oscuro”: nel senso che è compiuto, ma immagino che ne risentiremo parlare nei libri successivi della serie. Mannaggia a te, Holdstock, e mannaggia alla Mondadori... ( )
  lasiepedimore | Sep 21, 2023 |
I grew up on the edge of a little wood -- it was mostly ‘young’ growth, to be honest, not anything like the ancient woods in this book -- but I can remembering adventuring through it as a child, and how once you made it past the brush and briars on the edge it receded into this creepy, quiet forest floor littered with old leaves and trillium. I remember a giant boulder that I would go read on, and past the boulder was a giant old felled tree, and once you passed the rise on the other side of the valley the floor would change to sticky mud at the lowest points, and there, I can remember thinking that magic had to be real. Mythago Wood maintains that not only is the magic real, but our fairy tales and myths come to flesh and blood life through our collective memory. This was like a much, MUCH darker Bridge to Terabithia in that you cross the threshold, and you're in a different world were magic exists and exerts its influence on your life, and I’m frankly shocked that I hadn’t really run across it before, because it was outstanding. I’m really glad I ran across it, and I know it’s going to leave shockwaves on my memory for quite a while.
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A beautifully written and conceived novel that deals with the delights and dangers of myth-making... Some books are hard to put down. I found ''Mythago Wood'' hard to shake off.
 
Although it takes its time getting started, and occasionally reminds us that it was expanded from a short story, this is a winning novel with a fine feeling for the interface between airy dreams and sweaty reality.
toegevoegd door cattriona | bewerkPublishers Weekly (Aug 8, 1985)
 

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Robert Holdstockprimaire auteuralle editiesberekend
Aldiss, BrianPréfaceSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Canty, ThomasArtiest omslagafbeeldingSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Corominas, EnriqueArtiest omslagafbeeldingSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Dřevíkovský, JanIllustratorSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Degas, RupertVertellerSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Goodfellow, PeterArtiest omslagafbeeldingSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Haglund, AnjaVertalerSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Howe, JohnArtiest omslagafbeeldingSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Macía, CristinaVertalerSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Pérez Navarro, FranciscoVertalerSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Taylor, GeoffArtiest omslagafbeeldingSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Wachtenheim, DorothyOmslagontwerperSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Zacharow, ChristopherArtiest omslagafbeeldingSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
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Deep within the wildwood lies a place of myth and mystery, from which few return, and none remain unchanged. Ryhope Wood may look like a three-mile-square fenced-in wood in rural Herefordshire on the outside, but inside, it is a primeval, intricate labyrinth of trees, impossibly huge, unforgettable . . . and stronger than time itself. Stephen Huxley has already lost his father to the mysteries of Ryhope Wood. On his return from the Second World War, he finds his brother, Christopher, is also in thrall to the mysterious wood, wherein lies a realm where mythic archetypes grow flesh and blood, where love and beauty haunt your dreams, and in promises of freedom lies the sanctuary of insanity . . .

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Ryhope was maar een klein bos in het hoekje van het landgoed tegen Oak Lodge, het ouderlijk huis van Christian en Steven Huxley, maar in dat bos waren vreemde dingen die hun leven bedreigden.

Zoals hun vader George, die door een pijl getroffen van zijn verkenningstocht uit het bos terugkwam. En dan was er nog Guiwenneth van het Groene Woud, een beeldschoon en betoverend schepsel...

Na de dood van George blijkt Christian door dezelfde obsessie voor dit magische bos te zijn bezeten en hij volgt het spoor van zijn vader.

Wanneer Christian na een tocht van 15 jaar - of waren het eigenlijk maar 8 maanden? - terugkomt, komen beide broers in een dodelijke strijd tegenover elkaar te staan, in een wereld die vreemder is dan iemand zich kan indenken, in een plaats waar de onbewuste mythen en imago's van de mensheid zullen blijven.
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