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On Disobedience: Why Freedom Means Saying "No" to Power (Harperperennial Modern Thought) (1981)

door Erich Fromm

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This book is interesting reading, specially intial 2 chapters. Though humanist socialism is also good read but too idealist. ( )
  mahimm | Jul 15, 2018 |
A pretty slight collection of four essays by Fromm, most of which are simple rehashes of what he said much more convincingly in [b:Escape from Freedom|25491|Escape from Freedom|Erich Fromm|http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1317063305s/25491.jpg|1542935] and [b:The Sane Society|67977|The Sane Society|Erich Fromm|http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1189733151s/67977.jpg|929738]. It serves as a decent introduction to Fromm's thought although a newcomer might just as easily be interested in [b:The Art of Loving|14142|The Art of Loving|Erich Fromm|http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1166577387s/14142.jpg|1561022] or the aforementioned "Escape." I have to admit, the pervasive Cold War references in this book left me with the continual impression that HarperPerennial published it in 2010 as a mere money-grab; it's certainly not timely, nor does it offer any new insights into Fromm's very impressive collection of works. That said, it is memorable for some beautiful Bertrand Russell quotes in the 2nd (and most interesting) essay "Prophets and Priests." For your pleasure, here they are:
"Except for those rare spirits that are born without sin, there is a cavern of darkness to be traversed before that temple can be entered. The gate of the cavern is despair, and its floor is paved with the gravestones of abandoned hopes. There Self must die; there the eagerness, the greed of untamed desire must be slain, for only so can the soul be freed from the empire of Fate. But out of the cavern the Gate of Renunciation leads again to the daylight of wisdom, by whose radiance a new insight, a new joy, a new tenderness, shine forth to gladden the pilgrim's heart." 28-9

"As geological time is reckoned, Man has so far existed only for a very short period -- 1,000,000 years at the most. What he has achieved, especially during the last 6,000 years, is something utterly new in the history of the Cosmos, so far at least as we are acquainted with it. For countless ages the sun rose and set, the moon waxed and waned, the stars shone in the night, but it was only with the coming of Man that these things were understood. In the great world of astronomy and in the little world of the atom, Man has unveiled secrets which might have been thought undiscoverable. In art and literature and religion, some men have shown a sublimity of feeling which makes the species worth preserving. Is all this to end in trivial horror because so few are able to think of Man rather than of this or that group of men? Is our race so destitute of wisdom, so incapable of impartial love, so blind even to the simplest dictates of self-preservation, that the last proof of its silly cleverness is to be the extermination of all life on our planet?" 32-3

And the last quote is Fromm's recording of Miguel de Unamuno's public response to a Fascist slogan after a speech by Franco's General Astray at a university function in Franco-era Spain, for which he was immediate removed from his post at the university:
"Just now I heard a necrophilous and senseless cry: 'Long live death!' And I, who have spent my life shaping paradoxes which have aroused the uncomprehending anger of others, I must tell you, as an expert authority, that this outlandish paradox is repellent to me. General Millan Astray is a cripple. Let it be said without any slighting undertone. He is a war invalid. So was Cervantes. Unfortunately there are too many cripples in Spain just now. And soon there will be even more of them if God does not come to our aid. It pains me to think that General Millan Astray should dictate the pattern of mass psychology. A cripple who lacks the spiritual greatness of a Cervantes is wont to seek ominous relief in causing mutilation around him." [At which point Astray yells "Down with intelligence!"] . . . But Unamuno went on, "This is the temple of the intellect. And I am its high priest. It is you who profane its sacred precincts. You will win, because you have more than enough brute force. But you will not convince. For to convince you need to persuade. And in order to persuade you would need what you lack: Reason and Right in the struggle. I consider it futile to exhort you to think of Spain. I have done." 35
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  blake.rosser | Jul 28, 2013 |
A collection of four dated, idealistic and theoretical essays. Fromm makes the case for 'obedience' as the realm of the reactionary and 'disobedience' as that of the pioneer.

From the first essay, Disobedience as a Psychological and Moral Problem:
"Human history began with an act of disobedience, and it is not unlikely that it will be terminated by an act of obedience."

From the second essay, Prophets and Priests: "They are skeptical toward everything which cannot be caught in an intellectual formula, but they are naively unskeptical toward their own scientific approach."

From the third essay, Let Man Prevail: "With the bureaucratic management of people, the democratic process becomes transformed into a ritual."

From the fourth, and most comprehensively programmatic, essay, Humanist Socialism: "The individual must be protected from fear and the need to submit to anyone’s coercion. In order to accomplish this aim, society must provide, free to everyone, the minimum necessities of material existence in food, housing, and clothing. Anyone who has higher aspirations for material comforts will have to work for them, but the minimal necessities of life being guaranteed, no person can have power over anyone on the basis of direct or indirect material coercion." ( )
  KidSisyphus | Apr 5, 2013 |
this is the first i've read of fromm but i really enjoyed it. i especially appreciated the first section which was about the idea of obedience. he turns the adam and eve story on its head and argues for disobedience making us more human (and therefore better than we were before the choice to disobey). i also found his thoughts on socialism and what changes it should bring about to be really insightful. ( )
  shannonkearns | Feb 21, 2011 |
I found some excellent information in this book. Some things that resonated with me were the confrontation between General Astray and Miguel de Unamuno. Astray, incidentally the perfect name for this historical character, with his shouts of "Long live Death," and "Death to Intelligence" (Fromm is right about the destructive and suicidal tendencies inherent in so many humans). Instead of paying attention to life they worship death and corral as many others into their implosive paradoxical mind sets. Marinetti as well, with his manifesto of ridiculousness.

He is spot on when he discusses Adolph Eichmann being a prime example of how obedient technocrats will inevitably abet the destruction of our world as they willingly divorce themselves from critical thought in the face of authority.

I'm a fan of Bertrand Russell, so I was more than happy to see Fromm discussing several Russell papers.

Of course if you're a believer in authoritarian measures or the corporate power structure you won't see eye to eye with Erich Fromm, and certainly not this particular book. Especially not the last chapter entitled "Human.........(wait)..........(wait for it).......(better take a seat)............Socialism" ( )
  caballer | Jan 24, 2011 |
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For centuries kings, priests, feudal lords, industrial bosses and parents have insisted that obedience is a virtue and that disobedience is a vice.
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Contains essays Disobedience as a psychological and moral problem, Prophets and priests, Let man prevail,
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