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The Humans Who Went Extinct: Why Neanderthals Died Out and We Survived

door Clive Finlayson

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Neanderthals, no less than another kind of human, almost made it, finally dying out just 28,000 years ago. What caused us to survive while they went extinct? Ecology holds the clues, argues Clive Finlayson. It comes down to climate change & chance. There was little in it, & things could have turned out quite differently.… (meer)
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I actually couldn't finish this book. I kept getting caught by the author on one page deploring other scientists' narrow sightedness in not accepting new theories, and in the next chapter explaining all the reasons why it was absolutely impossible that humans and Neanderthals interbred. granted, the strongest evidence showing Neanderthal genes in Europeans came soon after this book was published, but the signs were there in 2009. the author's ego, as well as his habit of jumping forward and backward in time so much as to lose any consistent narrative, made this book disappointingly unreadable. ( )
  zizabeph | May 7, 2023 |
A rather disappointing read for me as The Humans Who Went Extinct spent more time covering proto humans rather than neanderthals, the very topic of this book.

Finlayson's general thesis is that luck played a huge part in why we are now here while neanderthals aren't. The Humans Who Went Extinct is now a decade old and seems quite out of date in the light of recent discoveries around neanderthals and denisovans. I did however learn some interesting things about Gibraltar, so don't consider this a complete loss. ( )
  MiaCulpa | Sep 5, 2020 |
Los neandertales han atraído la atención popular desde hace mucho tiempo. Se parecían tanto a nosotros, los Homo sapiens, y sin embargo desaparecieron. ¿Por qué? La respuesta tradicional es que «nosotros éramos mejores», más capaces, y que terminamos desplazándolos a asentamientos de mala calidad, o acaso eliminándolos violentamente. Sin embargo, no está claro qué sucedió, entre otras razones porque resulta que no sólo eran fuertes sino que su cerebro era grande, incluso mayor que el nuestro; de hecho, probablemente podían hablar y eran muy adaptable, características éstas que habitualmente se han adjudicado en exclusiva a los sapiens. En El sueño del neandertal, Clive Finlayson, en cuyo currículum se encuentra el haber realizado excavaciones en la Cueva de Gorham (Gibraltar), el último asentamiento conocido de los neandertales, explica por qué nosotros sobrevivimos y ellos no, de una forma tan novedosa y rigurosa como fascinante: recurriendo a elementos hasta ahora no utilizados en este dominio, como son los drásticos cambios climáticos que azotaron partes del mundo en que vivían los neandertales hace 70.000 años y que diezmaron y fragmentaron su mundo. En realidad, argumenta Finlayson, si nosotros sobrevivimos fue por una combinación de capacidad y suerte: porque estuvimos en los lugares adecuados en los momentos oportunos.
  bibliotecayamaguchi | Mar 10, 2020 |
There has been a lot of new information from the Paleoanthropological world of late regarding our much maligned cousins, the Neanderthals. I have a soft spot in my heart for these guys and gals instilled by my physical anthropology undergrad past examining their generous occipital bun, small chin, large nasal opening and famous, short, sloping forehead represented in the skull casts that I used to handle. And recently I read a fairly decent little book on our cousins entitled, The Humans Who Went Extinct: Why Neanderthals Died Out and We Survived. The author, Clive Finlayson, is the Director of the Gibraltar Museum and adjunct professor for the University of Toronto. Finlayson is situated in the perfect geographic region to discuss the extinction of the Neanderthals, the caves dotting Gibraltar are the last place on Earth where the Neanderthal's lived; pushed to very edge of Europe before dying out 25,000 years ago. But pushed by what? The recently arrived fully modern Homo sapiens? Or a changing climate? And why would an incredibly successful species that had been denizens of Europe for 600,000 years just fade away.
In the book the author deftly recreates the forested world in which the Neanderthals lived. And this is where Finlayson's strength as an ecologist shows through. He believes that the Neanderthal were a species that thrived in forested areas as ambush hunters. This goes against the conventional picture of a singularly, cold adapted species with long body and short appendages living on the wind ravaged steppe just in sight of an encroaching glacier. It was the open steppes, replacing the the increasingly mosaic forests, that did them in and not some Ragnarok final showdown with Homo sapiens. This theory of Findlayson's has been validated by recent evidence published in the journal Molecular Biology and Evolution suggesting that the Neanderthal population had a catastrophic crash 40,000 years ago probably due to climate change and slowly flickered out over the next 15,000 years holed up in isolated refuges like the one found in Gibraltar. Another belief that Finlayson expounds upon was that Neanderthal culture and intelligence was much more complex than tradition held, based on modified shells that could have been used for decoration. This has also been validated by the discovery of seal paintings Nerja cave in Malaga, Spain dating back to 43,000 years ago. This is 13,000 years before Homo sapiens arrived in the same region. What the author gets wrong in the book is his educated guess that Homo sapiens and Neanderthals did not interbreed, or if they did it was isolated and had no impact on the modern human genome. Almost immediately after the book was published the analysis of the Neanderthal's and the newly discovered close cousin of the Neanderthal the Denisovan's, DNA findings were released. This rocked the paleoanthropological world (and my Anthro-armchair world) with data that proved that modern Europeans and Asians shared 2.5 percent of their DNA with Neanderthals and that modern people from Oceania shared up to 5 percent of their DNA with the Denisovans! (The only Denisovan bone ever found was the pinky of a young girl in a cave in Siberia, crazy eh?).But this is a great book for the curious soul who wants to know more about the increasingly clear picture of human origins. But the title is now incorrect because the Neanderthals never went extinct, but still exist in most of humanity's genetic makeup. ( )
  earlbot88 | Jan 20, 2019 |
Finlayson is a paleontologist from Gibraltar who writes in this book about Neanderthals as a species of human that evolved parallel to the ancestors of homo sapiens. Finlayson challenges common beliefs such as the "Out of Africa" theory, noting that ancestral humans and proto-humans could move freely back and forth between Africa and the Eurasian landmass, especially when the ocean levels were much lower than they are now. He also theorizes that the fossil record of a many early human communities that lived by the shore have been lost to ocean levels rising. The role of climate plays a large part in Finlayson's model of human evolution, and attributes homo sapiens adaptation to the climactic changes that made the Neanderthals go extinct more to luck than the superiority of our species. His defensiveness about how his view contrast with the common wisdom make me wonder if he's a renegade that cannot be trusted. While writing on a fascinating topic, Finlayson's writing is a bit dry so the book is less engaging than I would've hoped. ( )
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Neanderthals, no less than another kind of human, almost made it, finally dying out just 28,000 years ago. What caused us to survive while they went extinct? Ecology holds the clues, argues Clive Finlayson. It comes down to climate change & chance. There was little in it, & things could have turned out quite differently.

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