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1EGBERTINA
jun 28, 2023, 9:47 pm

Hello,

Ive been catching up on some Jules Verne. I am wondering if anyone has some out of the box suggestions for tags. I avoid "fantasy" and "adventure" - because most of my books would fall into those categories. "Science Fiction" seems inadequate for Verne. He is so much more than sci-fi. Science without the fiction doesn't seem correct, either. He extrapolates into dead bodies, diving suits, opium trade... He is like an encyclopedia of lists and categories. (Makes you wonder if he was on the spectrum? - not in a judgmental way. I adore animal classification and people think my brain is unusual) Seeking a more accurate tag for what he does.

thank u

2clamairy
jun 28, 2023, 10:06 pm

>1 EGBERTINA: You might want to check to see what other people have tagged his individual titles. I just looked at Journey to the Center of the Earth and saw Geology, Adventure & Exploration. I'm sure the other titles have some interesting tags as well.

3MrsLee
jun 29, 2023, 12:13 am

>1 EGBERTINA: I can't think of the right word, but something like predictive writing, or science predictions is what came to my mind.

I'm pretty straightforward with my tags. I can't remember who it was, but years ago someone on LT told me the formula they used for their tags and that is what I've used:
Fiction or nonfiction
Type of writing (YA, correspondence, essay, historical fiction, etc.)
Location
Time of story (Era, year the story is set in)
Specific characters (if it is a series)
Subjects (rivers, churches, etc.)
I also add the year I read the story (r2023)
Any other tags that will help me remember when I'm trying to think of the title.

Tags have infinite variety don't they?

4pgmcc
jun 29, 2023, 1:57 am

Hard Science Fiction is the term used for fiction involving real science. Verne’s works have been described as Hard SF while H.G. Wells is mostly Soft Science Fiction. Wells used things like time travel. He did not worry about the reality of the science involved.

I think the term >3 MrsLee: was looking for is Speculative Fiction. This is a term that has been around for about thirty years. In my opinion it is not well defined. Some people use it to avoid the term Science Fiction and consider it to cover stories that address the question, “What would happen if…?” This is where I have difficulty with this term. Such a definition covers most fiction. I know Fredrick Forsythe used this question when writing his espionage novels.

By the way, I was fortunate enough to visit the Jules Verne Museum in Nantes two weeks ago. Antes is where he was born. In the museum they described his works using the terms Travel, Adventure, Innovation, and Science Fiction.

On the following day my wife and I went for a ride on a mechanical elephant. There is a machine based theme park in Nantes based on Verne and his innovative ideas and stories. If you like Verne’s works you should try to get to Nantes.

5reading_fox
jun 29, 2023, 9:26 am

I use lots of tags, as per >£ plus any others that I think fit - both broad category tags such as science fiction, but more niche ones too. For Verne (depending on which book!) technology, historical science fiction, classical SF, might all fit.

6EGBERTINA
jun 29, 2023, 10:29 am

>3 MrsLee: Yes, my tags follow a fairly similar pattern. When I began, I imagined a very slim-lined "efficient" system of tags that would reduce my library to a handful of tags. haha- little did I know....even when I combine tags, I cannot reduce them. (oh woe is me)

>4 pgmcc: I have been avoiding the term speculative fiction; as I understand that it is one of our American misperceptions that misrepresents his works as they would have been written before our butchered translations.

7EGBERTINA
jun 29, 2023, 10:35 am

>2 clamairy: Yes, i've pondered geology and geography, both. He differs from my typical works under those labels, in that most of my works nested, therein, are straightforward textbook educational formats; but his works certainly cover those topics and I feel he would agree that those were among his passions.

8Karlstar
jun 29, 2023, 11:59 am

>1 EGBERTINA: Adventure fiction?

9MrsLee
jun 29, 2023, 1:16 pm

>4 pgmcc: Actually, Innovation is closer to what I was looking for. He described as fiction many devices and procedures which later became fact.

10EGBERTINA
jun 29, 2023, 8:16 pm

Thank you everyone for suggestions. In The end, I created two new tags:

Odyssey-Excursion-Expeditions,

Futurism-Invention-Technology,

Hoping that will cover other authors that I might encounter.

11EGBERTINA
jun 29, 2023, 8:24 pm

>4 pgmcc: thank u for the differentiation of science fiction types. I dont know if I will have cause to utilise it in tags- but it is helpful.

I doubt I will get to France in this lifetime, but the museum sounds interesting. I didn't think the French were that impressed with Verne.

12humouress
jul 10, 2023, 9:55 am

Avant garde sci-fi? Victorian sci-fi?

13EGBERTINA
jul 10, 2023, 2:09 pm

>12 humouress:
Thank you.

So much of the early sci-fi was Victorian; yet they can differ so markedly. Having watched/ listened/ or otherwise been exposed to H G Wells and one other guy in childhood, I dont know if I will go out of my way to read other Victorian sci-fi.

Having finished Journey To The Center of The Earth- I did not enjoy it as well as others. Rather surprised it became so popular.

To my taste- most sci-fi is avant garde. (chuckle) I have not even ventured to read Asimov's sci-fi yet and I love his non-fiction.

15Maddz
apr 27, 4:29 am

>14 fvenez: Good one! Switched a few of my Science Fiction tags to Scientific Romance. Fortunately not many, as I find most fiction of that era tending to be unreadable now; if I read it, I usually read online.