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De ontheemde (1974)

door Ursula K. Le Guin

Andere auteurs: Zie de sectie andere auteurs.

Reeksen: Hainish Cycle, Chronological (1), Hainish Cycle (6)

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Fiction. Literature. Science Fiction. HTML:

"One of the greats....Not just a science fiction writer; a literary icon." ?? Stephen King

From the brilliant and award-winning author Ursula K. Le Guin comes a classic tale of two planets torn apart by conflict and mistrust ?? and the man who risks everything to reunite them.

A bleak moon settled by utopian anarchists, Anarres has long been isolated from other worlds, including its mother planet, Urras??a civilization of warring nations, great poverty, and immense wealth. Now Shevek, a brilliant physicist, is determined to reunite the two planets, which have been divided by centuries of distrust. He will seek answers, question the unquestionable, and attempt to tear down the walls of hatred that have kept them apart.

To visit Urras??to learn, to teach, to share??will require great sacrifice and risks, which Shevek willingly accepts. But the ambitious scientist's gift is soon seen as a threat, and in the profound conflict that ensues, he must reexamine his beliefs even as he ignites the fires… (meer)

  1. 91
    De linkerhand van het duister door Ursula K. Le Guin (Algybama)
  2. 41
    His Master's Voice door Stanisław Lem (TMrozewski)
    TMrozewski: Both deal with the social and cultural roots of science.
  3. 30
    Rocannon door Ursula K. Le Guin (andomck)
    andomck: Both are books in the Hainish Cycle.
  4. 20
    Eiland door Aldous Huxley (themulhern)
    themulhern: Two utopian books. The advantage of LeGuin's is that it doesn't have anything worth exploiting and it is a rocket flight away.
  5. 20
    Embassytown door China Miéville (sparemethecensor)
  6. 10
    Distress door Greg Egan (aulsmith)
    aulsmith: These books share isolated anarchist communities and discoveries in physics that change everything.
  7. 10
    Doctor Mirabilis door James Blish (jpers36)
    jpers36: Life story of a genius physicist destined to revolutionize a stagnant culture with his radical scientific insights.
  8. 10
    New York 2140 door Kim Stanley Robinson (LamontCranston)
  9. 10
    The Player of Games door Iain M. Banks (themulhern)
    themulhern: Two opposing cultures collide in both works. Urras = The Empire but their opposites (Annares and The Culture) have very little in common. Annares is determined by scarcity, the Culture by its lack.
  10. 10
    Amatka door Karin Tidbeck (andomck)
  11. 66
    De maan in opstand door Robert A. Heinlein (aulsmith)
    aulsmith: A different moon, a different anti-authoritarian community, but the same experience of thinking about other ways to run human societies
  12. 11
    Storm over Melniboné door Michael Moorcock (andomck)
    andomck: Brooding,introspective sci fi/fantasy
  13. 02
    The Necessary Beggar door Susan Palwick (MyriadBooks)
  14. 35
    Het verhaal van de dienstmaagd door Margaret Atwood (LamontCranston)
  15. 419
    De kracht van Atlantis door Ayn Rand (lauranav)
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One of the best novel I have read in a long time. ( )
  Lokileest | Apr 2, 2024 |
The first time I read this back in the 90s I thought it was great but I think I missed a lot. Now, rereading it, I find it to be an amazing and thought-provoking look not only at capitalism and anarchism, but how politics of any kind will tend toward solidification unless people continuously and actively work to keep the ideals alive and even improve on them. Good lessons here for today's democracy that is being weakened and is under threat of disappearing entirely. ( )
  wellred2 | Mar 3, 2024 |
The philosophizing, oh the philosophizing was agonizing. I have read Le Guin's short stories, but this was my first novel. I was so bored! I despise Shevek, I did not care about the Physics, the stakes. Sadly, I was disappointed in the dullness of this novel. I think there is some (almost) fascinating dialogue happening about the implications of societal norms on ideas, culture on ideas, ideology, political morality, morality in general. I am sad that I was so bored. ( )
  ocassim | Feb 10, 2024 |
A book club pick :)

I have been in love with Le Guin’s writing for a very long time, and I was in love with it once again. There are beautiful lines in The Dispossessed.

“That vivid memory and the cool vast touch of the night wind awakened him. His soul came out of hiding.”

“Awe came into him. He knew himself blessed though he had not asked for blessing.”

My favourite thing about the book was following Shevek and how every chapter alternated between his past and the book’s present – Shevek’s coming of age, his evolution, and the relationships that grow and change, as his spirit finds freedom. All the pages that had Shevek and Takver in them were riveting.

To me, this was a story of exile and belonging, of leaving the world you know and coming home, of the impossibility of utopia.

I do wish that Le Guin hadn’t made this novel into an extremely long political science essay. It did not blend well with the rest. Reading about Urras and Anarres is not uninteresting; but contrasting a capitalist society with an anarchist/communist one does not feel like a useful exercise in 2023. Yes, I can tell where Le Guin is coming from describing the extreme misogyny of Urras (I’m with you there, dear author):

“If to respect himself Kimoe had to consider half the human race as inferior to him, how then women manage to respect themselves – did they consider men inferior?”

Anarres’s egalitarian society taken to extreme feels like a dictatorship to me, with a public opinion that can punish you, suffocate you, take your soul away.

The treatment of children on Anarres made me cringe, it reminded me of one of those things dictatorships love – parents can’t raise good citizens, their influence is harmful, let the state take care of this instead (and people formed by the same mold are so much easier to influence, yay). The author seemed to approve of this, and it soured the book for me. I debated the final rating with myself for quite a while.

Still, 4.0 stars it is - because Shevek was there.
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  Alexandra_book_life | Dec 15, 2023 |
Lovely. Very thoughtful and beautiful, not in a geographical sense, but in the humanity sense. Philosophical at its core , an examination of political structures, the nature of beings and how they are shaped and influenced by their societies. Good stuff. The protagonist, Shevek, is compelling and sympathetic making reading the story through his eyes very enjoyable.
1 stem BookyMaven | Dec 6, 2023 |
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Doch wollte Le Guin mit den Habenichtsen und ihrem Planeten weder ideale Menschen schildern, noch eine ideale Gesellschaft. Zu deutlich zeichnet sie die Schwächen und Mängel beider. Nicht nur die Urrasti, auch viele der Menschen auf Anarres sind hab- und machtgierig, intrigant und Karrieristen, obwohl es dort offiziell weder eine Hierarchie noch Eigentum gibt. Doch dafür werden die Anarresti gelegentlich "gezwungen, auf eigenen Wunsch für einige Zeit wegzugehen", weil die Gesellschaft sie andernorts braucht - oder auch, weil sie einem Mächtigeren im Weg sind. "Ein Paar, das eine Partnerschaft einging, tat dies in voller Kenntnis der Tatsache, dass es jederzeit durch die Erfordernisse der Arbeitsteilung getrennt werden konnte." Es gibt Zwangsarbeit, und Dissidenten werden schon mal zur "Therapie" auf einsame Inseln verbracht, und schon im ersten Teil des Romans stellt Shevek resignierend fest, "dass man für niemanden etwas tun kann. Wir können uns nicht gegenseitig retten. Nicht mal uns selber."
toegevoegd door Indy133 | bewerkliteraturkritik.de, Rolf Löchel (Jul 1, 2000)
 

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Sârbulescu, EmilVertalerSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Spousta, RobertVertalerSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Stege, GiselaVertalerSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Thole, C. A. M.Artiest omslagafbeeldingSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Thole, KarelArtiest omslagafbeeldingSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Valla, RiccardoVertalerSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
Veselá, ErnaVertalerSecundaire auteursommige editiesbevestigd
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Nobody's born an Oxonian any more than he's born civilized! But we've forgotten that. We don't educate for freedom. Education, the most important activity of the social organism, has become rigid, moralistic, authoritarian. Kids parrot Odo's words as if they were laws--the ultimate blasphemy! (p.168
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"One of the greats....Not just a science fiction writer; a literary icon." ?? Stephen King

From the brilliant and award-winning author Ursula K. Le Guin comes a classic tale of two planets torn apart by conflict and mistrust ?? and the man who risks everything to reunite them.

A bleak moon settled by utopian anarchists, Anarres has long been isolated from other worlds, including its mother planet, Urras??a civilization of warring nations, great poverty, and immense wealth. Now Shevek, a brilliant physicist, is determined to reunite the two planets, which have been divided by centuries of distrust. He will seek answers, question the unquestionable, and attempt to tear down the walls of hatred that have kept them apart.

To visit Urras??to learn, to teach, to share??will require great sacrifice and risks, which Shevek willingly accepts. But the ambitious scientist's gift is soon seen as a threat, and in the profound conflict that ensues, he must reexamine his beliefs even as he ignites the fires

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